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General Bodybuilding Discussion => Bodybuilding Takmičenja => Temu započeo: Vladar Septembar 09, 2008, 02:28:27 posle podne
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Datum odrzavanja: 12/13. Septembar 2008.
Kategorije:
Muski bodybuilding - Open
Muski bodybuilding - Masters - preko 40
Nagrade:
Muski bodybuilding (Open) 40.000 $
Muski bodybuilding (Masters - preko 40) 10.000.$
Kvalifikacije za Mr.O::
Muski bodybuilding - TOP 3
Muski bodybuilding - Nema kvalifikacije
Najavljeni takmicari:
1. Eddie ABBEW, England
2. Melvin ANTHONY, USA
3. Lee APPERSON, USA
4. Flavio BACCANINI, Italy
5. Gilles BELLEHUMEUR, Canada**
6. Omar BORRELLI, Argentina
7. Elvis BROWN, England
8. Lionel BROWN, USA
9. Steven BURKE, USA**
10. Marcos CHACON, Spain***
11. Darrem CHARLES, Trinidad
12. Marcel CHAYARD, France**
13. Adorthus CHERRY, USA
14. Fedel CLARKE, Canada
15. Rodney DAVIS, USA
16. Omar DECKARD, USA
17. Alfonso DEL RIO, Spain
18. Contantinos DEMETRIOU, Australia*
19. Clarence DeVIS, Belgium*
20. Shehab ELDIN, Netherlands
21. Tarek ELSETOUHI, Egypt
22. Anthony FINOCCHIARO, USA
23. Toney FREEMAN, USA
24. Andy HAMAN, USA***
25. Will HARRIS, USA
26. Milton HOLLOWAY, USA
27. Mike HORN, USA
28. Roland HUFF, USA
29. Pavol JABLONICKY, Czech Republic***
30. Johnnie JACKSON, USA
31. Rusty JEFFERS, USA
32. Ken JONES, USA
33. Martin KJELLSTROM, Sweden
34. Paul LaSALA, USA
35. Igor LEONTIEFF, Tahiti [French Polynesia]
36. Cesar MENDIBLE-BAPTISTA, Venezuela
37. Craig RICHARDSON, USA
38. Jonathan ROWE, USA*
39. Yan SALAKS, Russia
40. Bill SCARNATY, USA**
41. Viggo SNOWHILL, Denmark**
42. Johnny STEWARD, USA
43. Joel STUBBS, Bahamas
44. Vince TAYLOR, USA**
45. Tommi THORVILDSEN, Norway*
46. Charles URREGO, USA
47. Massimo VALLI, Italy
48. Bob WEATHERILL, Canada
49. Luke WOOD, Australia
50. Hidetada YAMAGISHI, Japan*
*Open
**Masters
***Open i Masters
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Fina ekipa,nagrade dobre,dobre...
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Masters Prejudging
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From FLEXONLINE.
Iz preview-a na Mastersima onogo sto bi se trebalo odigrati u open kategoriji sjutra, Toney Freeman i Darrem Charles se cine favoritima u Trump Marina Hotelu na Atlantic City Pro-u.
Obojica, 42-godisnji Freeman i 40-godisnji Charles se prvi put takmice u Mastersima. Freeman koji dolazi nakon pobjeda od proslog mjeseca na Tampa Pro Bodybuilding Weekly Championshipsu i Europa Super Showou se cini da ce i ovdje nastaviti seriju uspjeha.
Za Charlesa ACP je cetvrto takmicenje ove sezone, i nakon razocarenja pocetkom jula na Houston Pro i u Tampi u avgustu cini se da je povratio fomru koja ga je ucinila najkonstantnijim IFBB takmicarem od 1992 do 2007.
U ovom odmjeravanju Freeman, koji je sto se tice kondicije nesto boji nego u Tampi, ali i nesto gori nego li sto je bio u Dallasu - ima prednost u velicini i oblicima, dok Charles prikazuje svoju sjajnu formu sa ispruganim gluteusima i tricepsom, i ima prednost sto se tice forme. Ipak cini se da na kraju njegova nesto bolja forma nece biti dovoljna da nadoknadi Freemanove prednosti.
Joel Stubbs se cini kao sigurni 3. dok se Pavol Jablonicky i Marcos Chacon bore za pozicije 4 i 5.
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Odlican info Vlade!
Freman po meni zaista treba da bude prvi,Charles je opet onaj stari definitivno,sa njegovom prepoznatljivom formom,a Joel nikad bolji.
Joel ima torzo Mr.O!
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Vrlo solidni mastersi!
Toney ove godine gazi iako mu je 42, Charles solidan, ne tako dobar kao u najboljim danima ali dobar, Joel - za koga mnogi kazu da je jako napredovao - sto sigurno i jeste, ipak za mene previse nesimetrican, svaka cast momku, ali ovaj odnos butina i gornjeg dijela se meni nikako ne dopada.
Chacon je takodje freak, ipak kao i vecina freakova presirok struk... Pavol dobar, pogotovo od naprijed, ali zaista OGROMNI respect za sve njih, ljudi u tim godinama na tom nivou mogu samo da izazovu veliko divljenje...
Ne smijem da zaboravim jos jednog gospodina... Vince Taylor! Pune 52 godine!!!
RESPECT!
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Polufinale u toku,evo par slika prve četvorke koja se bori za titulu...
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Open...
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MENS OPEN PREJUDGING CALLOUTS...
1st CALLOUT:
TONEY FREEMAN
MELVIN ANTHONY
DARREM CHARLES
CRAIG RICHARDSON
JOEL STUBBS
KING KAMALI
2nd CALLOUT:
JOHNNY JACKSON
KING KAMALI
JOHNNY JACKSON
JOEL STUBBS
HIDETADE YAMAGISHI
CRAIG RICHARDSON
MARCOS CHACON
3rd CALLOUT:
MELVIN ANTHONY
TONEY FREEMAN
DARREM CHALRES
JOHNNY JACKSON
3rd CALLOUT:
PAVOL JABLONICKY
TAREK ELSETOUHI
JOJO NITIFORO
MARK LAVOIE
4th CALLOUT:
MARTIN KELLSTROM
AD CHERRY
OMAR DECKARD
LIONEL BROWN
ALFONSO DEL RIO
5th CALLOUT:
WILL HARRIS
MIKE HORN
RODNEY DAVIS
TOMMI THORVILDSEN
6th CALLOUT:
JOHNNY STEWART
ARMIN SCHULZ
CESAR BAPTISTA
CONSTATINO DETRIOU
JONATHON ROWE
7th CALLOUT:
KENNY JONES
ANDY HAMAN
LEE APPERSON
FIDEL CLARKE
VIGGO SNOWHILL
8th CALLOUT:
LUKE WOOD
YAN SALAKS
SHEHAB ELDIN
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Nekoliko pojedinačnih slika...ako ih VLADAR ne postavi opet posle mene-mnogo si bre masivan,dok se pokreneš... ;D
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DARREM CHARLES
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Polufinale u toku,evo par slika prve četvorke koja se bori za titulu...
Melvin je odlican. Ovako gledajuci slike (sto moze prilicno da zavara) rekao bih da bi moglo biti ovako...
1. Melvin "Marvelous" Anthony
2. X-Man Freeman
3. JOJ
4. Darrem Charles
Vidjecemo, Melvin ima sve za visok plasman na Mr.O samo da popravi ostrinu za jos samo malo - takav Melvin bi bio problem za pobjediti i u jacem line-up od danasnjeg.
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Nekoliko pojedinačnih slika...ako ih VLADAR ne postavi opet posle mene-mnogo si bre masivan,dok se pokreneš... ;D
Izvinjavam se postovani kolega Kolundzija. Moracu da smanjim kilograme, ovako stvarno vise ne ide! ;-)
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MELVIN ANTHONY
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Polufinale u toku,evo par slika prve četvorke koja se bori za titulu...
Melvin je odlican. Ovako gledajuci slike (sto moze prilicno da zavara) rekao bih da bi moglo biti ovako...
1. Melvin "Marvelous" Anthony
2. X-Man Freeman
3. JOJ
4. Darrem Charles
Vidjecemo, Melvin ima sve za visok plasman na Mr.O samo da popravi ostrinu za jos samo malo - takav Melvin bi bio problem za pobjediti i u jacem line-up od danasnjeg.
Slažem se sa tobom!Melvin mi stvarno izgleda odlično,bolje od ostalih!!!
Ipak mislim da će Darrem Charles bolje proći od Jacksona...
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JOHNNIE JACKSON
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Šta se ovom čoveku desilo???
Luke Wood
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King Kamali...sve po starom...
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aaaa sto se desilo sa Wood-om? ne vjerujem....
kamali je opet razocarao....
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Još jedna zver iz Španije...tamo kao da kloniraju Bautistu?
MARCOS CACHON
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MENS MASTERS PRO BODYBUILDING:
1. DARREM CHARLES $4500
2. TONEY FREEMAN $2500
3. JOEL STUBBS $1500
4. PAVOL JABBLONICKY $1000
5. MARCOS CHACON $500
Prilično iznenađenje da je Charles dobio Freemana...to bi trebalo da okrene stvari i u open-u...
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Zagrijavanje prije Mr.O... :)
Melvin prvi bez vecih problema. Za drugo mjesto Toney Freeman i J.Jackson, iako jako cijenim Freemanovu strukturu, prednost bih ipak dao J.Jacksonu. Posebno s leda jede Freemana, bar na slikama... Ipak je Toney malo off, sto u ovakvoj konkurenciji kosta plasmana...
Cetvrti Darrem Charles. Premali za ovu trojicu gore. Kako je dobio Freemana u mastersu??? :o ...ni slucajno...
Luke Wood ??? strasan pad...
Ovaj King Kamali (iako malo bolji nego na zadnjih nekoliko natjecanja) moze samo svojim sponzorima zahvaliti sto ga guraju. On u prvoj usporedbi?! Svasta.
Joel Stubbs ima Mr.O gornji dio tijela, ali noge strasno zaostaju. Kao dva razlicita covjeka. Steta, nikada nece kvadricepsi "stici" gornji dio tijela zbog ozljede, a bio bi... uh! Ovako, to nije kompletan bb. Stvarno steta. Podsjeca me na nekoga...
Lijepo je vidjeti Jablonickog i Vinca "Terminatora" ponovo u akciji. :) Kao i povratak dobrog japanca Hidenesto Yamanesto :D
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MENS BODYBUILDING FINAL RESULTS:
1. MELVIN ANTHONY
2. JOHNNY JACKSON
3. DARREM CHARLES
4. TONEY FREEMAN
5. JOEL STUBBS
6. KING KAMALI
7. MARCOS CACHON
8. HIDETADA YAMAGISHI
9. CRAIG RICHARDSON
10. TAREK ELSETOUHI
11. PAVOL JABLONICKY
12. JOJO NTIFORO
13. MARC LAVOIE
14. LIONEL BROWN
15. ADORTUS CHERRY
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Svaka cast,Melvin se vratio 100% u igru,odlican!
Darem je takodje onaj stari.
Freman je malo popustio sa formom,nakon predhodne pobede.
Joel zaista nikad bolji,zaista steta sto kaze Vlad za njegovu disproporciju,neverovatan torzo,no ipak vidljiva su poboljsanja i na nogama.
Nazalost Wood,da je izasao u onoj formi kakvu je prikazivao samo nekoliko nedelja pred takmicenje mogao bi racunati na plasman,ovako totalni podbacaj,to nije taj bilder!?
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sta se desilo sa woodom jbt..
ovo je katastofa..
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JOJ pun pun...mada ne bas onako ostar kao sto smo navikli da ga gledamo...
Tarek-sto je sa tim covjekom? nije bio bas 100% za ovo takmicenje koliko vidim po slikama.
Wood-ravan i voden, nesto se desilo ocigledno...
Melvin- to je taj rad!!
Xman- ne znam ni sto je izlazio kad se vec kvalifikovao...onda je barem trebao da zablista
Darrem-Odran, ispunio ocekivanja
Jumbo Joel-Spektakularan torzo,eto malo zaostaju quadsi,medjutim sa strane izgleda extra,zbog ogromne zadnje loze
Hidetada-Gdje je?po slikama mi se cini da nije bas u formi bio kao ranije
Kjelstrom-Koliko vidim ogroman i odran
kamali- 6 mjesto?hahahah
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tac o tako
kjelstorma sudje redovno zapostaljvaju i pitanje je trenutnka kada ce taj momak da kaze..pa pa...
i ne samo on...
sta se desava sa ostalima..meni nikako nije jasni
jer ovaj promasaj forme od wudda...ovo je nesto strasno moralo da se desi..ovo je uzas.
japanac..delko od onoga sto je bio prosle godine....
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Kamali 6 ?!? Ma daj... prvo dobije prvu usporedbu, a zatim i 6 mjesto. Bilo bi smijesno da nije zalosno. KATASTROFA.
S prva dva mjesta se potpuno slazem, 3 i 4 moglo je biti ovako, ali i obrnuto, ali ovo 6 Kamalijevo mjesto me stvarno bode u oci, pa na natjecanju je bilo bar 10-15 boljih od njega.
Ovaj spanjolac Marcos izgleda dobro, malo siri struk i lijeva noga manja od desne uz "pokidani" list. Ali vrlo masivan, impresivan u bocnim pozama.
Dobro natjecanje uz nekoliko nepostenih plasmana. Nista novo, nazalost...
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Rezultati po rundama...
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Milosev post vezan za Luke Wood-a i njegov pad forme...nevjerovatno sto se desilo:
I will gladly share with all of you what happened - and I am sure Luke will be glad to tell everyone what really happened...
Needless to say - it was devastating to even watch him...and what photos can't show - all of us that had a chance to be around him - witnessed how Luke was really feeling each and every day in his last two weeks of preparation...
If I would tell you guys that he was EATING LIKE FOOD IS GETTING OUT OF STYLE...that he didn't do any cardio in last 10 days...hadly trained...and also DID NOT TOUCH ANY KIND OF DIURETICS - would you believe me?
While I can't go into great detail at this point (I just returned from my trip and have soooooo much to do...) I will share with you this much:
Many bodybuilders (majority of competitors that I know...me included...) in their contest preparation use specific THYROID medication protocol...(namely: T3 - CYTOMEL or TRIACANA...+ T4 - SYNTHROID, TEVOTHYROXINE) to pharmacologicaly enhance metabolism - in effort to get leaner and loose some body fat...
So, that is something that everyone considers pretty much normal...
However, IF anyone attempts to abuse thyroid - results could be devastating...
What I've learned from Luke - upon his arrival to California is that he feels some strange exhaustion lately and that he is running out of breath quite easily...
Also, he was always hot, sweating just way too much and way more than ever before...and certainly much more than ordinary...
First thing I asked him was to hit few posses - so I could asses his condition...and when he did that - I was speechless...Luke was in THE MOST INCREDIBLE CONDITION I have ever witnessed...Absolutely "skinless" yet - big, full and hard...Winning combination any which way you look at it...The only problem was: he could not hit any pose without shaking uncontrollably...
When I asked him "how come you are shaking so much?" - he answered - " I really don't know what is happening to me...but last few days I am running out of breath doing simplest things...and I have no energy for the life of me..."
I asked him: "Well, are you doing anything different?"...thinking our usual stuff...and he told me - NO....
Than why would you shake like a leaf? I asked....
"Mate - I have no idea...but this has to stop - as I don't know how would I last during the prejudging?"
OK Luke - how much thyroid are you taking?
Not much...just 2 + 2 / that means in "our terminology" 2 tablets of T3 and 2 tablets of T4 daily...(T3 or "cytomel" comes in 25 mgc per tablet and T4 or "synthroid" comes in 50 or 100 mcg per tablet...
Well, that is OK I guess...so what's next?...
By process of elimination I would have analyze everything he was doing/taking just to find out WHAT in the world is doing "IT" to Luke...until I realized - CATASTROPHIC NEWS...
Compounded pharmaceuticals Luke got a hold of as his substitute for CYTOMEL and SYNTHROID... had 2.5 and 10 per tablet...ONLY PROBLEM IS:
NOT mcg (micrograms) but mg (milligrams)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now to understand this - you must calculate:
2 tablets of 2.5 mg of T3 = 5 mg of T3 (which is: 5000 mcg of T3 - equivalent to 200 tablets of CYTOMEL per day!!!!!)
Add to this 2 tablets of 10 mg of T4 (or 20000 mcg of T4)...and you'll understand WHAT WAS GOING ON...
What is worse -- it is still NOT OVER...
Luke is trying his hardest to re-establish NORMAL levels of thyroid...but that will take some time...
I will wait for him to jump in and explain few things - but for the time being - I wanted to inform all of you - before rumors reach "epic proportions"...
izvor:
milossarcev.com
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a u PM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ja ne mogu da verujem ovo....prosto ne mogu da verujem da se ovako nesto moze desiti jednom prof kao sto je wood....
neee...ovo nije moguce...
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Sjebo je tiroid potpuno.Ko zna koliko ce mu vremena trebati da ga vrati u normalu.totalni krah,prvo infekcija bubrega...pa ovo...
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Ko je taj koji prizvodi tabletu od 2,5 mg T3 u svetu ???
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Meni samo ne ide u glavu,zasto je on uopste izasao kada je vec video sta je uradio,morao je znati kako ce se nakon svega raspucati oni koji su to i jedva cekali.
Velika greska.Znao je kako je izgledao 2 nedelje pred i tada na takmicenju,nije smeo takav da izadje.
From Luke.
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Firstly thankyou so much Milos for explaining this! Guys for those who do not buy it or think its a BS story than i don't really care! No one is more gutted or more upset than me! 3 weeks out of this show i was in the shape of my life and very confident of not nly being at my all time best but actually qualifying for the Olympia! BUT!! I knew about 4-5 weeks out that something was not right! I got some Thyroid from a sorce i will not disclose! (no one would know them anyway) Yes it was dumb and i am only human! I had some bad exprience sometime back with thyroid and (2004 Aussie GP) and it ate me alive as i was taking stupid amounts. Since than i use very, very little of it. I hate the stuff but sometime when we want something so bad we turn a blind eye and do DUMB thngs!
While i was in Thailand i was using a small does of pharmacetical grade t4 (150mcg/day). I had this other home made stuff and i thought why not just add a little. This was about 6 weeks out. I was all ready way ahead and for the life of my i have no idea when i took it but thats the devil on your shoulder telling you that can be harder and harder..... Me thinking that i was taking 25mcg /day was so far from the truth!! The thing is that for the first 2 weeks i just got so shredded and my energy was ok!!! and i was eating 1,000g carbs /day as i was getting harder and harder. Abiut 4 weeks out of the show i was getting very, very tired!!! by the time i got to Cali to see Milos i was more than ready to get one stage!!! Milos said and i qoute, "You are as dry as dorian"!!! We were both confident of top 3! I was receiving emails daily from people all just amazed at my condition. The thing is when i would pose for Milos it was like i was breathing through a needle! I coudld'nt catch my breath and could not stop shaking! I thought it was maybe the clen, so i stopped it completely but i was getting worst! The more food Milos gave me the more i was going catabolic!
I cannot even explain to you how bad i felt! i was looking amazing and was just trying to ignore the symptoms but when i was falling asleep between sets and just so out of it, we knew that something i was doing was not aggreeing and possibly doing damage!
Milos never ever tells BS so what he posted is 1000% true! By the time we found out (milos took me to a specialist who deals with this) the massive, massive doses it was too late! you cannot just stop thyroid cold turkey!! it has to be graudule. The horse had bolted by than as they say and with one week to go i just could'nt hold my weight for the life of me. Even mcdonalds 2-3 times/day!!
I had to come off slowly and i still am with also special medication! When my thyroid was tested 10 days out it was through the roof and resting pulse rate was almost 100! but to the specialist amazement my thyroid was still in good condition when they test for certian damage and they is no permantly damage!! what they call THYROID STORM or THYROID SHOCK! im lucky! VERY LUCKY! I had more blood work done 5 days out and it was a little better reading but still at a ridiculos level to really be able to compete. But i did'nt care i wanted so bad to get on stage! I had so many people supporting me and man i feel so terrible about letting them down! Beleive me guys that if i knew...... i can 100% honeslty say that this is the safest i have ever been for a show! i was so cautious with everything it did except one major thing and really i am lucky to be here!
To all my mates, family, fans and Milos, i am SO VERY SORRY!! i feel very embarrassed and i feel i have let you all down!
I know the main thing is that my health will be ok and it a the near future my thyroid will be back to normal but it does not take the pain away that i worked soooooooo damn hard for this show and all the time i took off and money spend was and feels like a waste! Again i feel let down all you people!
I did prove though that i can come back and show that i can still be a force and can still get on that olympia stage!
There will be no backyard vitamin crap for the Australia Grand Prix and i will be back!
Thankyou all so very much! the support i got and still get really does bring a lump to my throat!
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