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General Bodybuilding Discussion => Steroidi => Temu započeo: Vexxx Jun 22, 2007, 03:47:24 posle podne

Naslov: Albuterol
Poruka od: Vexxx Jun 22, 2007, 03:47:24 posle podne
Albuterol

Albuterol

Chemical Name: Albuterol Sulfate

Drug Class: Beta-Agonist


 

Albuterol is very closely related to Clenbuterol (often simply called “Clen”), which has been a drug athletes have been using for literally decades to lose fat. Although it’s typically thought of as only a shorter acting version of Clenbuterol, that’s not 100% correct, and Albuterol actually has some benefits that Clen doesn’t.  Just like Clen, Albuterol binds to the beta 2 adrenergic receptors. Beta 2 receptor stimulation is a very potent mechanism for initiating fat loss. Stimulating the beta-2 receptors found in fat cells activates hormone sensitive lipase, to break up stored fat into free fatty acids which are then used as fuel by the body (1). Once those fatty acids are broken up, Albuterol then has the added effect of elevating your metabolism, which helps you use the free fatty acids that it has broken up. It’s a very potent fat burner, as a result of both being able to break up stored fat and make it available as energy, as well as increasing the rate at which this energy is used.

Interestingly, while Clenbuterol increases both muscle size and strength in animal studies (2), the same thing isn’t necessarily true in humans, and if it is, actual studies proving so are nearly impossible to find. It’s suspected to possibly do this, but there’s really no hard evidence of it. And since it’s not approved by the FDA for use in humans, non-anecdotal data proving that Clen actually builds muscle or increases performance is scarce. Since it’s approved by the FDA for use in asthmatics, studies on humans and Albuterol, regarding exercise performance are more plentiful. In multiple studies, it has been suggested strongly that it increases strength as well as endurance in humans (3,4). Clen, on the other hand, has anecdotally been reported to reduce endurance in athletes who use it.

In addition, Albuterol may even help the lipid profile (cholesterol)(5), which is definitely something that steroid using athletes may want to consider, when deciding whether or not to include Albuterol in a cutting cycle. In fact, a small dose of it might be useful on nearly any cycle, because of this characteristic.

The main difference between Albuterol and Clen is that Albuterol has a significantly shorter half life of Albuterol. If Clenbuterol happens to give you insomnia, then Albuterol is a much better alternative, because it’s not going to build up in your system to the same degree that Clen can. 

I’m typically much more confident recommending Albuterol to athletes instead of Clen, because stimulant induced anxiety and insomnia seem to be much less likely. Also, due to the shorter half life, there’s probably a much lower level of beta-2 receptor downgrade, but the trade off is more frequent dosing. Two to four milligrams, three to four times a day is usually sufficient for an anabolic as well as fat burning effect.



References:

 
Effect of beta1- and beta2-adrenergic stimulation on energy expenditure, substrate oxidation, and UCP3 expression in humans.
Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2003 Oct;285(4):E775-82. Epub 2003 Jun 24.

J Appl Physiol. 2001 Nov;91(5):2064-70

Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2000 Jul;32(7):1300-6. Effect of salbutamol on muscle strength and endurance performance in nonasthmatic men. van Baak MA, Mayer LH, Kempinski RE, Hartgens F.

 Aviat Space Environ Med. 2004 Jun;75(6):505-11 Albuterol helps resistance exercise attenuate unloading-induced knee extensor losses. Caruso JF, Hamill JL, Yamauchi M, Mercado DR, Cook TD, Keller CP, Montgomery AG, Elias J.

Metabolism. 1996 Jun;45(6):712-7 Effects of oral albuterol on serum lipids and carbohydrate metabolism in healthy men. Maki KC, Skorodin MS, Jessen JH, Laghi F.


Da li ga je neko koristio....? Pitao sam jednog pulmologa da li postoji neshto kao clenbuterol na trzishtu i on mi je odgovorio da postoje 2 leka/supstance koja imaju slichan efekat a to su: Albuterol i Terbutalin.
O terbutalinu nishta nisam nashao... Dok sam o Albuterolu nashao dosta textova....


Poz...
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: Vexxx Jun 22, 2007, 04:03:26 posle podne
Evo nashao sam kao neku shemu pa ako mozete prokomentarishite.... Hvala... :)

Dosing should start at 2mg a day and work up to a max dose of 4mg three times a day. You can adjust as necessary depending on your reaction and tolerence levels to it. It should be 2 weeks on / 2 off just like clen.

Sample (only an example - You should adjust according to how it affects you):

2mg x 1
2mg x 2
2mg x 3
3mg x 2
3mg x 2
3mg x 3
3mg x 3
4mg x 2
4mg x 2
4mg x 3
4mg x 3
3mg x 3
3mg x 2
2mg x 2

Off for 2 weeks

Then you can adjust the next cycle according to what you learned from the first cycle. Hope that helps!
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: Marko BG Jun 22, 2007, 06:46:09 posle podne
A sta fali clenu?
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: H2SO4 Jun 22, 2007, 06:51:34 posle podne
spalmotil (galenika)
salbutamol (jugoremedija zrenjanin)

clen je ipak stara provjerena stvar ...
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: TTgirl Jun 23, 2007, 11:28:49 pre podne
Ako ja dobro kontam-NEMA GA NIGDE,pa Vexxx trazi zamenu..?:)
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 23, 2007, 11:39:15 pre podne
gore u txt pise 2ned.On 2ned.Off, jel bolje da se koristi 2 dana ON 2 dana OFF ?
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: Nico Jun 23, 2007, 12:50:29 posle podne
sto se clena tice bolje je 2 weeks on 2 off
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: Vexxx Jun 23, 2007, 12:58:05 posle podne
spalmotil (galenika)
salbutamol (jugoremedija zrenjanin)

clen je ipak stara provjerena stvar ...

Za koju ovaj pulmolog nema pojma :D... Mada ok... Chisto me interesovalo poshto moze legala da se nabavi....
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 23, 2007, 11:59:55 posle podne
A sta se desava sa receptorima, jel se brzo zatvaraju kao kod clena ili .. ?
Jel moze neko da napise kako bi izgledala sema sa 2dayON 2dayOFF.
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: Vexxx Jun 24, 2007, 02:29:41 posle podne
pa ne znam.. na nekim sajtovima pishe da se zasicjuju kao sa clenom a negde da je to zasicjivanje puno manje nego sa clenom... pa shema sa ovim koliko sam ja shvatio ne razlikuje se puno od sheme sa clenom samo shto uzimash nekoliko puta dnevno ovo jer je poluzivot 4 sata valjda.....
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 24, 2007, 07:24:54 posle podne
" 2.2.off..off...3.3.off off...4.4..off..off....5.5..off of....ostanes na 5 tableta neko vreme..recumo 7-10 dana istim prinicipom 2 days on 2 days off i posle vracas isto kao sto si se penjao...recimo tako.. "
Jel bi ovo bila ok shema? naravno 4-6weeks
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: sasacg Jun 24, 2007, 07:48:02 posle podne
Ja bih licno isao na duzi neprekidan ciklus uz koriscenje ketotifena...
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 24, 2007, 07:53:08 posle podne
Ja bih licno isao na duzi neprekidan ciklus uz koriscenje ketotifena...
znaci 2weeks on-off
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: Vexxx Jun 24, 2007, 09:47:40 posle podne
da
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 24, 2007, 10:38:30 posle podne
Kako treba da se dozira Ketotifen?
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: sasacg Jun 24, 2007, 11:23:31 posle podne
Ja bih licno isao na duzi neprekidan ciklus uz koriscenje ketotifena...
znaci 2weeks on-off

Ne!!Par nedelja samo on,recimo nekih 5-6 nedelja...
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 24, 2007, 11:33:14 posle podne
a ketotifen?
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 24, 2007, 11:34:52 posle podne
 Jel bi mogao Sasa da napises kakva bi bila shema za 6 nedelja
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: sasacg Jun 25, 2007, 01:50:12 pre podne
Ja bih sa clenom krenuo prva 2 dana po 2 tablete,i svaka sledeca dva dana poveceavao za po jednu do max 6 tableta dnevno(sve zavisi kako ko reaguje na supstancu),znaci 2,2,3,3,4,4,5,5,6,6...
Ketotifen npr. po 1-2mg pred spavanje od druge nedelje pa nadalje...
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 25, 2007, 11:16:51 pre podne
Jel moze ujutru na prazan stomak pre treninga da se pije? i jel treba da se razdvajaju tabs ili moze sve odjedanput da se popije?
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: sasacg Jun 25, 2007, 11:18:38 pre podne
Jel moze ujutru na prazan stomak pre treninga da se pije? i jel treba da se razdvajaju tabs ili moze sve odjedanput da se popije?

Poluzivot clena je oko 30 i kusur sati,tako da bi mogao sve odjednom,ali sam ja ipak za razdvajanje na 2 dnevne doze :wink:
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 25, 2007, 11:53:40 pre podne
tnx Sasa  :)
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: H2SO4 Jun 26, 2007, 01:43:58 posle podne
chek sta sad ti pijes slabutamol il clen??
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 26, 2007, 02:59:59 posle podne
ne pijem nista jos ali svako pitanje se odnosilo na temu ili ti na Salbutamol (Spalmotil) mada su slicni koliko kapiram samo je razlika u brzini delovanja, a zasto sasa stalno govori clen ne znam :lol:
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: sasacg Jun 26, 2007, 03:23:52 posle podne
ne pijem nista jos ali svako pitanje se odnosilo na temu ili ti na Salbutamol (Spalmotil) mada su slicni koliko kapiram samo je razlika u brzini delovanja, a zasto sasa stalno govori clen ne znam :lol:

Ovo sto sam ja napisao se odnosi na clen!!!Za salbutamol je verovatno potrebno cesce uzimanje doza,npr. 4-5 puta dnevno jer ima kraci poluzivot od clena...
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 26, 2007, 03:43:11 posle podne
dali je max 12mg - 6 tabs ?
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: H2SO4 Jun 26, 2007, 03:45:26 posle podne
sinak obustavi rad!
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 26, 2007, 04:00:39 posle podne
sinak obustavi rad!
opusti se samo, ne znam sta treba da se desi pa da uzmem nesto od lekova nego da bar dovrsimo pricu :lol:
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: sele137 Jun 26, 2007, 08:54:57 posle podne
 8)
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: doberman Jun 26, 2007, 08:58:38 posle podne
tnx sele
Naslov: Odg: Albuterol
Poruka od: Vexxx Jun 27, 2007, 11:05:26 posle podne
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