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General Bodybuilding Discussion => Članci => Temu započeo: Polomac Januar 05, 2008, 09:27:17 posle podne
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Full Name: David Christopher Palumbo
Birthplace: Manhattan, NY
D.O.B: February 17, 1968
Parents: Salvatore and Sheila Palumbo
Astrological Sign: AQUARIUS
Favorite Color: BLUE
Favorite Number: SEVEN
Favorite Movie: ROCKY
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CONTEST HISTORY:
1990 NPC NATURAL New York City (6th place Middleweight.....168lbs)..training only 6 months
1992 NPC NJ SUBURBAN BODYBUILDING CHAMPS (5th place, Light HW.....198lbs)
1992 NATURAL TRI STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS (1st place, Heavyweight........202lbs)
1992 NPC Eastern USA 3rd place HW...212lbs
1992 NPC WESTCHESTER 2nd place HW ...212lbs
1994 NPC NY METROPOLITAN BB CHAMPS 1st HW.......228lbs
1994 NPC SUBURBAN BB CHAMPS 2nd HW........228lbs
1994 NPC Jr USA 3rd place HW...........228lbs
1994 AMATEUR GRAND PRIX 1st place HW and OVERALL CHAMP......235lbs
1995 NPC Jr NATIONALS 1st place HW........258lbs
1995 NPC USA CHAMPS 7th place HW.........256lbs
1996 NPC USA 7th place.........254lbs
1996 NPC NATIONALS 4th place.........268lbs
1997 NPC USA 6th place .....270lbs
1997 NPC NATIONALS.....5th place........272lbs
1998 IFBB NORTH AMERICAN 6th place .......281lbs
1998 NPC NATIONALS 8th place Super HW....... 273lbs
1999 NPC USA ......9th place
2000 NPC NY METROPOLITAN 1st place Super HW and OVERALL.... 275lbs
2000 NPC USA 4th place Super HW.......274lbs
2000 NPC NATIONALS 8th place Super HW......268lbs
2001 NPC USA 7th place .......Super HW....... 265lbs
2001 IFBB NORTH AMERICAN 5th place...... Super HW ...... 271lbs
2002 NPC USA 3rd place Super HW...........260lbs
2002 NPC National's 2nd place Super HW.......260lbs
2003 NPC USAs 2nd place Super HW...........265lbs
2003 NPC NATIONALS 6th place Super HW.......268lbs
2004 NPC USA 6th place Super HW....... 258lbs
To Contact Dave Palumbo: Please e-mail: Huge285@aol.com
ZBOG MOJE VELICINE I DEFINICIJE KONSTANTNO DOBIJAM PITANJE DRUGIH----KOLIKO DIZEM??????????
RUTINSKI SVIMA ODGOVARAM--MISIC NE VIDI KILAZU KOJU DIZEM,ON JE SAMO OSECA...SVE JE U UMU,INTEZITET JE U KONCENTRACIJI..
Palumbov trening
-jedna partija dnevno[grudi,ledja,ruke,noge,ramena]
-3 vezbe [2serije po vezbi 4-12 pon]za manje misice ,biceps,triceps,grudi
-4vezbe[2serije po vezbi 4-12pon]za vece misice ,ledja,noge,ramena
-2 dana odmora u sedmici
Athletic Background:
Eight years playing soccer from 1976-1984
Five years as a competitive track and cross-country runner from 1985-1990 (averaging 10-12 miles per day)
Current Status (2006):
Present-day body composition: Super Lean 270 pounds
My genetically blessed metabolic rate has eliminated the need for cardiovascular work in my regimen. Recently, I have incorportated some light walking in order to maintain good cardiovascular health.
Attempting to preserve my body weight has become a monumental task because of the enormous caloric intake required to feed my supercharged metabolism
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:shock: :shock: :shock:
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;bravi;
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;bravi;
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;bravi;
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steta sto se ne takmici.
i da on nema pro card, svasta ...
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steta sto se ne takmici.
i da on nema pro card, svasta ...
Stvarno neverovatno......
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Ocigledno da je covek dobro iskalulirao, pa je oducio da je mnogo lakse zaraditi novac prodajuci pamet, nego probati pobedini na neko pro BB takmicenje, a svestan si da nemas sanse za to.
Pametna odluka.
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Palumbo je urednik na MD-ovom portalu, takodje saradjuje sa vise americkih PRO i amaterskih bodybuildera koje priprema za natjecanja.
Njegov najpoznatiji klijent je bio Toney "X-MAN" Freeman, koji je prosle godine pobjedio na Sacramento PRO i Ironmanu kao i imao sjajno 3. mjesto na ASC navodno uz veliku pomoc upravo Davea.
Takodje poznato je da su saradnju prekinuli prije priprema za Mr O gdje je Toney, od koga se ocekivao sigurni plasman u TOP 6, bio tek 14.
Poznat je po svojim preporukama o koriscenju masti umjesto UH kao goriva, i po tome da su njegovi builderi uvijek u dobroj formi. Opet sa druge strane, neki tvrde da njegov uspjeh u pripremanju drugih lezi u izuzetno velikim kolicinama dopinga koje pripisuje svojim atletama - da li je to istina ne mogu da znam.
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U svakom slucaju zaista poseban...
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Kada je Vladar vec pomenuo doping u vezi sa Palumbom treba reci da je on zagovornik ciklusa u trajanjima i do skoro pola godina za razliku od npr. Trevor Smith-a koji je zagovarao teoriju o cescim i kracim ciklusima tokom cele godine.
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odlomak iz poslednje Nasserove opste prozivke:
[ Q ] You just mentioned that Greg Kovacs has the worst genetics in bodybuilding. How did he make it to the pro level then?
Greg Kovacs should never have become a pro. Actually Dave Palumbo should have turned pro before Greg. Let me tell you about Dave. Jumbo Palumbo was the very first person (even before Art Bedway, the judging IFBB alcoholic and racist from Pittsburgh) that strongly claimed I was using synthol in my calves.
Why in Gods sake would I do use synthol in my calves? It is like saying that Yates and Cutler were also using synthol in their calves. And I am quite sure they did not. Palumbo was telling people that he knew my calves were full of oil because they are too round, too big and too perfect. Man - all the people like you, Chihuahua Ray "the lord of illusion", crappy Kovacs, and the other blind talkers have been using almost everything that is possible to inject into themselves. And you guys are pointing fingers at me?
Now I am going around like you guys, but I am speaking the truth and saying that Palumbo is such an on and off drug-head that he was, for years, shooting nubaine approximately every 30 minutes while he was in public. He was either using public restrooms or used the restrooms of restaurants to do so. For years he had injection marks on his inner forearms."
I would make the thesis that Palumbo has taken more drugs (meth, ecstasy, ketamine, nubain, speed, cocaine, amphetamines, steroids and synthol) than the combined 2007 Mr. Olympia top six would use. Yes, I am saying that, and many, many insiders of the sport again can most likely corroborate this.
Palumbo is the best proof that drugs do not create champions although I have to say again that the NPC under Manion screwed him several times. In this sense he is also a bodybuilding victim. And if we take a closer look at Palumbo's body then we can assume that he looks either somehow distorted by nature or he is the unprecedented subject of gigantic GH and insulin abuse over decades and also thus a victim of the sport.
Have you ever seen the "Acromeglion" guest posing anywhere? He bears a strong resemblance to Cro-Magnon man and at best he resembles the former Egyptian Pharaoh, Akhenaten.
If you take a closer look from skull to toes then you can see that Jumbo Palumbo has to be renamed to Acromeglion. Without exaggerating, his feet look like flippers. I would guess he has at least a shoe size of 15 to 16. And his floppy toes, the excessively long pointy elbow "endings" and his now fortunately reduced stomach size (before it looked like he was about to, at any moment, give birth wherever he showed up).
When you see the Acromeglion standing it looks like somebody just had hit him in the hollows of his knees. His big toes are kind of pointing toward each other. And when you watch him walking then you can see that his huge feet almost hit his gigantic butt with each step. Palumbo's butt is even bigger than Flex Wheeler's butt when he was remotely in off season condition and being attacked by "ninjas". And to sum it up, you could indeed position a big glass of beer on top of both of their over-dimensional butts.
Palumbo's features are now worse than before because before he had so much more size. The abnormal growth of his bone endings could be better hidden before under greater size and mass and his feet could often be hidden in sneakers. Now, only his hydrocephalus is still as big as before when decade long "reigns of drugs" penetrated the sponge system of his body.
Again, I do like the Acromeglion, as he is an interesting subject to study. He is definitely one of the all time most intelligent heads within the bodybuilding industry. Also it has to be said that Palumbo's IQ is so much higher than, for example, the DCM - regardless of the fact they were both drug dealers. One of the big differences in the end between them is that Milos got busted like Palumbo but DCM managed to get away in contrast to the multi times arrested Acromeglion with his fictitious ammunition.
Over recent years I have met several people who have been trained or are being trained by Palumbo. The Acromeglion is also "training" people "over the phone" (diet and nutrition advice, drug programs and so on) and he is even advising most people not to do cardio for burning fat calories. He instead recommends using "Clenbuterol" in pill form. In my prime I was taking 10 to 15 pills of 0.02 mcg per day of Clenbuterol while dieting.
Palumbo is known for taking daily (when dieting) 50 to 100 of these Clen pills at the same strength. Additionally he, for example, also recommends taking "Cytomel" in pill form as part of a combo with the clen. He was swallowing approximately 10 to 15 pills of Cytomel per day.
I had two to four of these pills in my diet per day. So his "athletes" or better said, his "clients" skip or avoid cardio but do take enormous amounts of Clen and excessive amounts of thyroid hormones which can result in lifetime dependency to external intake of thyroid pills (cytomel). The Acromeglion has the theory that the more cardio you do the flatter and the less impressive you will appear onstage. Basically Palumbo is replacing cardio with the combination of two drugs!
Again, the Acromeglion likes to take shortcuts by avoiding cardiovascular activity but instead "bumps up the intensity" by using more drugs. By following the Acromeglion's recommendation for too long, his advice on how to use thyroid hormones when dieting, you are receiving a great 100 percent effective recipe on how to develop a lifetime dependency on this hormone. And if you took it as long as the Acromeglion suggested you could become thyroid pill dependant and fat for the rest of your time on this planet.
Exhibit Three: The Acromeglion.
David Palumbo aka Jumbo Palumbo aka the Acromeglion is a brilliant-minded drug expert in regard to all pharmaceuticals currently found on planet earth. But as much mental capacity as he has, he deluded himself into thinking he could beat alien genetics with an over-accumulation and infestation of his body with anabolics and an additional 999 different drugs. All these drugs could not in the end prevent the animalistic appearance of his body, and with progressing time, his transformation into an almost indestructible acromegliac body type.
Palumbo definitely originally amplified the size of his initially "Ethiopian starving look" of the 130 pounds he started out with as a running skeleton, to the Herculean size of a top Acromeglion.
His exodus from the amateur contest stage was barely regretted by anyone. By working primarily now for MD as a Super-Adaptoid his wait and see policy should result in permanent retirement as a former stage performer with a rhinoceros looking rear end, his mega duck-like flippers and his bone ending proliferations.
The times of trying to look like an Adonis with Herculean dimensions are over but the Acromeglion as the avant-garde of a new species embodies true new development in the wrong bodybuilding direction. But at least it must be commended for no longer deceiving itself by remaining a victim of its self-created phantom. The body of the Acromeglion should be stored and used for scientific research purposes at a later date.
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Nezgodan je ovaj Nasser :)))))
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Ko zna zasto su se oni zamerili?Nego,imao sam neke kontakte pre par godina sa Nasserom,i mogu samo reci sve pozitivno...Ali ova prozivka za Milosa,stvarno neznam cemu to,nacuo sam nesto..nije ok...Milos ge je uvek isticao u superlativu,ali etoo.... :shock: :shock: :shock:
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al da mu se bas chitava ekipa navedenih u intervijuu toliko zamjerila !? nevjerovatno, najjvecha prozivka i pljuvachina u istoriji BBa.
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al da mu se bas chitava ekipa navedenih u intervijuu toliko zamjerila !? nevjerovatno, najjvecha prozivka i pljuvachina u istoriji BBa.
Nema dalje,znaci shock do kraja,kad sam procitao nisam mogao da verujem....
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Cak postoji i " bolest " koja je dobila ime po ovom body builderu - Palumboism.Vise o tome procitajte ovde http://www.bodyhouse.dk/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=19384 (http://www.bodyhouse.dk/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=19384)
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Nije ni cudo da uz ovakvu estetiku nema profesionalnu licencu.
On je cak i izvadio gyno tkivo, tako da ima manju brigu zbog vecih doza. ;smoke;
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Dave's chest before surgery...
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Dave's chest after surgery...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26737.0;attach=23091;image)
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E pa Sumporni stvarno me odusevljavas. Originalan si kao i uvek.
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E pa Sumporni stvarno me odusevljavas. Originalan si kao i uvek.
Ha,ha,ha,covek je masina za zezanje...struja... ;bravi;
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zajebanciju na stranu ali ne vidim da se neshto Palumbo razlikuje od vecine ostalih profi bildera i da odudara sa tim navodnim deformitetima.
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ova prva slika mi djeluje malo photoshopana?
jeli moguce da covjek ovako moze da se nagrdi, ogromna glava,stomak,pocjepan lat,podlaktice velicine djeteta...
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ova prva slika mi djeluje malo photoshopana?
jeli moguce da covjek ovako moze da se nagrdi, ogromna glava,stomak,pocjepan lat,podlaktice velicine djeteta...
Ma kakav photoshop,palumboizam prijatelju :mrgreen:
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Slika je autenticna, Dejv Palumbo zaista tako izgleda. To je covek sa verovatno najludjim metabolizmom u bodi-bildingu - da, cak i ispred Dekstera Dzeksona. Zvuci neverovatno ali prakticno ne izlazi McDonaldsa :)
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Pored toga, vazi za vrhunskog, elitnog eksperta za atletsku primenu steroida i svekolike hemije. Ljudi mu veruju - ukljucujuci i vrhunske IFBB profesionalce - velikim delom i zato sto, osim ogromnog znanja, poseduje i isto tako ogromno prakticno iskustvo i puno toga je probao na samom sebi. Njegov najnoviji pulen je Toney Freeman, koji je prvi od elitnih takmicara isprobao i potvrdio neverovatnu efikasnost tzv. "Palumbove dijete" (u sustini modifikovani low-carb/high fat plan ishrane).
Uzgred, od proslog broja u Maxx-u izlazi stalna rubrika "Anabolic Freak" sa Palumbovim savetima u vezi hemije.
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MAXX, da nije NO CARB, LOW FAT ?!
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No carb, low fat...? Pa onda bi u ishrani ostali samo proteini, zar ne...??? Djoroski, Djoroski... od coveka tvojih godina ocekuje se da bar malo promisli pre nego sto nesto kaze, pogotovo ako je to javno, pred ovolikim narodom...
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P.S. Imas na "MD No bull Radio" intervju sa Toney Freeman-om gde on opisuje Palumbovu dijetu; odslusaj to lepo.
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=108945461
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www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/palumbo/premixed-growth-hormone.htm - 43k -
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forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=17372 - 111k -
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Pa to je sustina Palumbove dijete, ako sam ja dobro razumeo iako je bilo na engleskome :)
Ako pricamo o dijeti za definiciju i takmicenje, ali ako je za masa, onda moze malo UH. Ajde moj MAXX proveri dobro, idem i ja da u zmem recnik u ruke 'pounch'
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Evo da se ispravim, posto me je Dave ispravio :)
"When dieting using my HIGH PROTEIN/ MODERATE FAT/ LOW CARB approach, my post workout shake would consist of 50g whey, 30g fat (coming from all natural peanut butter), very low carbs (just whats in the PB). Remember, the brain is not using carbs when in a state of ketosis so carb intake (even after the workout) is unnecessary."
Dakle low carb, ali je to ohohooooo loooooow.
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Dejvov jelovnik na dijeti :
OBROK 1 : 5 celih jaja i 4 belanca,
OBROK 2 : proteinski sejk od 50g whey proteina i prirodni kikiriki buter (bez dodatka secera),
OBROK 3 : "proteinski obrok'' - piletina i trecina solje badema ili oraha,
OBROK 4 : proteinski sejk od 50g whey proteina i prirodni kikiriki buter (bez dodatka secera),
OBROK 5 : "masni proteinski obrok" - losos, sabljarka ili crveno meso sa zelenom salatom (bez paradajza, sargarepe i bibera) i jedna supena kasika maslinovog ulja...
OBROK 6 : 50g whey-a i jedna kasika prirodnog kikiriki butera ili 4 cela jajeta+4 belanca...
Moram priznati da deluje nesvakidasnji i zanimljivo... ;think;
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SORRY MAXX, ipak ima UH :) ali:
"On my recommended high protein/moderate fat/low low card diet, your muscle glycogen levels are very low, however, they never get depleted since the only activity that requires glucose (carbs) is WEIGHT TRAINING. And since you probably only require 50g carbs per workout, you'll have no problems since that's just about the amount you'll be taking in per day (from indirect sources-- nuts, peanutbutter, whole eggs, ect). Also, you'll be having a cheat meal once per week which will act to reload glycogen stores." Ko da ih nema.
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Koliko sam shvatio on govori da se unosi onoliko UH koliko je u stvari potrebno za jedan trening sa opterecenjem jer se UH ne istrose osim "u teretani".
Jesam li ja to dobro shvatio ?
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Jesi.
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@djoroski:
Da, to je itekako oho-ho low carb, ili sto bi kulturno rekli very low carb :)
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Ajde moj MAXX proveri dobro, idem i ja da u zmem recnik u ruke
Sinko, MAXX nikad nista ne kaze dok prethodno nije zasigurno proverio. . . :)
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meni nikao nije jasno sta je sporno ovde???
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Da li je low carb ili no carb, to je otprilike bila diskusija. Ali mislim da smo na kraju zakljucili da i nije bilo spora.
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vidim ja sta je diskuijsa...ali mi nije jastnos ta je sporno kod nejgove klope
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Moze da bude sporno samo za one koji su u principu protiv ketogenih dijeta, jer ovo zaista jeste jedna prava ketogena dijeta, i to veoma striktna u smislu rigorozne redukcije ugljenih hidrata.
Verovatno stoji argument da ovaj nacin ishrane nije podesan za naturalce (zbog opasnosti od katabolizma), ali ovo je u principu takmicarska dijeta i kao takva valjda nije ni namenjena naturalcima...
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jbt..ja kao da pricam franuscki...
ja jako dobro znam sta je cettonic diet cak sam je i koristio itd.itd..itd...da sada ne uzlaim ud etlaje..
mene znaim..sta je sporno kod unosa UH kod ove diejte..tj sta kome tu nije jasno??
rec low...znaci...malo....ali ocigledno da je to MALO..prilicno opterecujece za nekoga pa pojma nema sta to malo..znaci...
dakle..bez filzlofije i sranja.postavio sam jednsotavno pitanje sta je sporno kod diejte koju palumbo preprucuje..
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To bi morao da odgovori neko za koga ima nesto sporno. Za mene nema. Ketogena dijeta prilagodjena atletama, i to je sve. Ono sto mi se cini da buni pojedine, je ekstremno mali unos UH.
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Koliko znam, cesta je pojava da se ljudi ne slazu sta konkretno u gramima znaci low carb... Posto si radio ketogenu dijetu, i to veoma uspesno, bilo bi dragoceno da nam kazes koja su tvoja merila i iskustva u vezi toga?
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neznam sta ih ima tu buniti.
miki..ti si pametan covek pa onda treba vrlo jasno i da kazes onima kojima nesto nije jasno.isto kao i sto im j kazem.
dakle.
zar se nekome cini..iole normlanom....da pored ovilike kolicine helahty fats..na rpvom mestu..mozes i smes da unosis JOS UH???
veoma prosto..
mislim da bi ovo i moj ogi skontao da ne ide i da 2+2 nije 6...
tako da neznam koji deo ih buni.
u stvari ja znam...a to je taj..da niko nema jaja da stgne i rpoba.
rekoh,..ja sam bio 4 nedlje na ovoj diejti...mnogima sam je prepricio..stvarno radi extra...ali i treba imati jajaj do kolena da izguras ovo do kraja.
jer bez bozira na sve..svi su svesni da treba vezbati na orasima umesto na rizi..
ehheheheheh
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Koliko znam, cesta je pojava da se ljudi ne slazu sta konkretno u gramima znaci low carb... Posto si radio ketogenu dijetu, i to veoma uspesno, bilo bi dragoceno da nam kazes koja su tvoja merila i iskustva u vezi toga?
upravo objasnih miki
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Stari, ti mene poznajes i znas da se uzdrzavam da dajem preporuke i objasnjenja u vezi necega sto nisam siguran da potpuno znam. Iako ponesto znam o tome, ketogene dijete nisam probao ni licno ni na onima sa kojima sam radio, pa sam se zato uzdrzao od davanja brojki itd, i na kraju zamolio tebe da to uradis.
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Stari, ti mene poznajes i znas da se uzdrzavam da dajem preporuke i objasnjenja u vezi necega sto nisam siguran da potpuno znam. Iako ponesto znam o tome, ketogene dijete nisam probao ni licno ni na onima sa kojima sam radio, pa sam se zato uzdrzao od davanja brojki itd, i na kraju zamolio tebe da to uradis.
nadam se da je ok..
str8 to face....
pa ko voli
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cuejm da ga je tony freeman napustio zbog neslaganja oko nekih megadoza hemije. nisam siguran za taj info
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Ja sam bio malo u setnji, pa sam duzan samo malo pojasnjenje, oko mog postovanja na temu DAVE DIJETE.
Problem nije bio u njegovom meniju. Jer je to izvodljivo, za onog koji ima m..a da to odrati,ali i koji je mentalo spreman za sve to. Cela stvar je u glavi.
Problem je bio oko "low carb ili no carb,"
Dakle, ako se radi o dejiti namenjena za dobijanje misicne mase, onda Dave preporucije i unosenje UH sa svakim obrokom od 30-50 gr. prema individulanom izboru.
FOR WEIGHT GAIN:
Follow my same formula. . . High protein (50g per meal), Moderate Fat (25g per meal), and moderate carbs (35-50g per meal).
Ako se radi od ejite za definiciji, priprema za takmicenje, ONDA JE STRIKTNO NO CARB.
When your carbs go to virtually nothing (which they should be), for the first 3-4 days you will feel "weird" since the brain is desperately searching for gluose to use and it's starving for fuel. Once that initial 3 days is done, your brain will switch to using ketone bodies (fats) and it will seem as though someone flipped on the light switch-- you'll feel great.
The trick is not to go LOW.......but to get rid of them completely. Low will keep your braining hoping you eat more............NONE will force your brain to start burning KETONE BODIES (FATS) and will stablize your blood sugar and you'll feel great!
I evo jedno prosto objasnjenje sa negove strane:
Remember, the diet I suggest has all its components in place for a reason. I constantly get questions of whether a person could follow my diet suggestions and use a bit less fat and one or two small carb meals. The truth is, any diet works if there's a logical plan behind it and if you stick to it. If you add some carbs to my diet and take away some fat, it will no longer be my diet.
If you add carbs, you'll never get your brain into KETOSIS. If your brain isn't in ketosis, it will constantly be searching for CARBS to use as energy.
Mislim da je sada sve jasno. On spominje, pise LOW CARB, ali sve to dolazi kao nus pojava uneta preko sasvim drugih namirnica koje nisu CARB namirmice.
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dobro...
ja da se pitam ja bi tuda proterao autobus...
jbt bobce samo si zbunio klionce..
pricas malo an sprskom pa onda krenes sa engl tj citiras davida......opusteno
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DAVE ODGOVARA NA PITANJA......
Dave, do you have any opinions on impact/nonimpact carbs as a way of eating carbs but not releasing much insulin to inhibit fat burning or is that just a marketing ploy?
I really believe that the whole NON IMPACT CARB marketing ploy is as silly as the old FAT FREE marketing sales hype was 10 years ago. Carbs release insulin, PERIOD! Unless, of course, they are a non absorbable fiber. Be real careful of the whole NON IMPACT CARBS "warning"
dave, what are your thoughts on orals like anavar 10mg by british dragon, if i weret o run 20 mgs a day would that be harmful on the liver im paranoid with it affecting my liver or kidneys etc.
also liv 52, by himalya should i take with that and dose it realy worki have heard good things about it !
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www.derekanthony.com
Liv-52 by HIMALAYAN LABS is an awesome liver detoxifer.
If you have any liver problems, whatsoever, I would steer clear of all 17-alpha akylated oral steroids..............ANAVAR included!
Q nr1: A friend of mine uses only 2-3 iu of GH before his workouts 4-5 times a week (offseason) & says it work wonders for him... Any coments?
Q nr2: I have my own bodybuilding & fitness store over here in Europe, Sweden & can use all supplements I want..what would you use?
Peace!
ZONE
www.zonecapone.com
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Q nr1: A friend of mine uses only 2-3 iu of GH before his workouts 4-5 times a week (offseason) & says it work wonders for him... Any coments?I agree; 2-4IU is the ideal dosage of GH. I suggest taking it all in the morning since that's when your body is the most catabolic
Q nr2: I have my own bodybuilding & fitness store over here in Europe, Sweden & can use all supplements I want..what would you use?As for supplements, I suggest sticking with a good Whey protein, creatine, and an essential fatty acid supplement (Omega-3 fish oil (3000mg per day) and Evening Primrose oil (2600mg per day)
Whats your reasoning behind recommending the evening primrose oil dave???
Evening Primrose Oil is a great source of GLA (Gamma linolenic Acid) which happens to be one of the heathy Essential Omega-6 fatty acids. It's also a great liver detoxifier.
I prefer the high intensity training technique. Less sets, heavy weight, but excellent form. I usually do 1 or 2 sets per exercise using impeccable form.
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Originally Posted by huge285
Evening Primrose Oil is a great source of GLA (Gamma linolenic Acid) which happens to be one of the heathy Essential Omega-6 fatty acids. It's also a great liver detoxifier.
I prefer the high intensity training technique. Less sets, heavy weight, but excellent form. I usually do 1 or 2 sets per exercise using impeccable form.
And how many sets per body part would you use.
Right now
I'm doing 2 exercises per body part (sometimes one for smaller groups). 2 sets each w/ a mix of rest pause and drop sets.
Ex: For Back I'll do Lat Pulldown (6-8 reps) rest 10 sec, then do a few more reps. drop the weight about 25% do some more reps, rest 10 more sec, and do as many reps as I can.
i'll do two sets........then I'll do the same with a isolation back exercise.
I'm using this as a break from high volume training.
Do you use any intensive techniques dave such as rest pause, drop sets, forced reps, eccentric training etc?????
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Originally Posted by huge285
Evening Primrose Oil is a great source of GLA (Gamma linolenic Acid) which happens to be one of the heathy Essential Omega-6 fatty acids. It's also a great liver detoxifier.
I prefer the high intensity training technique. Less sets, heavy weight, but excellent form. I usually do 1 or 2 sets per exercise using impeccable form.
And how many sets per body part would you use.
Right now
I'm doing 2 exercises per body part (sometimes one for smaller groups). 2 sets each w/ a mix of rest pause and drop sets.
Ex: For Back I'll do Lat Pulldown (6-8 reps) rest 10 sec, then do a few more reps. drop the weight about 25% do some more reps, rest 10 more sec, and do as many reps as I can.
i'll do two sets........then I'll do the same with a isolation back exercise.
I'm using this as a break from high volume training.
Do you use any intensive techniques dave such as rest pause, drop sets, forced reps, eccentric training etc?????
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Another problem I see is that I have trouble getting from 16 to 14 % BF, but when I get to 14 I can drop to 10 or 11% easier. It is like my body 'figures out' what i am trying to do. Does this make sense or am I talking out of my ass? My question would be if this is possible can I drastically drop kcal until I get to 14% (maybe 2 weeks at a dramatic cut, with BCAA supps galore to spare muscle) and then go on this diet or would my metabolism be ****ed if I dropped it too quickly. Just follow the diet and be patient...........any time you do something too drastic, you're risking problems.
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Well I am using the cutting diet Dave has, switching over from my VLCD that was very similar. My question is I have a bunch of supplements that I have just laying aorund that were either given to me or I purchased. I've never taken gear or anything of the sort, but what i have laying around are AMS 4- AD and Arom-X, Xyience XTEST And XNGF (natural growth factor).
Is it worth taking any of these? Save it and experiment in the offseason.
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I live in sunny South-Africa and was wondering when your products will be available in our country? I already ship to several customers there. Feel free to order!
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thanks for the answer
Testo + deca ?
because , testo + tremb , maybe produce gyno . maybe? If you're not sure give it a try. Most people don't get gyno from TRENBOLONE.
Add Femara to combat the possible gyno ? Gyno from TREN is caused by too much prolactin. To combat that, take 1/2mg Dostinex every 3rd day.
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I am in need of some new wrist straps and wanted to know how your new hand gripper wrist straps compare to standard wrist straps? Also, how long does a pair last? They will probably last you forever! Once you use them, I guarantee that you'll think they're the best straps you every used.........and I bet you'll never use a conventional pair of straps again! http://davepalumbo.com/ProductsPages...20Products.htm
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You said coffee is fine, but no concentrated stimulant pills. I'm guessing you mean hydroxycut, ripped fuel, ephedrine. YEP!
What about energy drinks like Redline or Endorush? I don't recommend them. The final choice, of course, is always yours! Stimulants are not for bodybuilders. It's the worst drug choice you can make.
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Dave, I am advising a freind of mine to do cardio on an empty stomach with a cup of coffee first thing in the morning. He cant seem to handle doing the cardio with no food at all, is there anything he can take or eat that will keep the cardio effective for fat burning? Tell him to drink 2 glasses of water.....then try it. You'll be surprised how much better he'll feel.
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hey dave, what do u think about saunas, can they help preontest? They can help dehydrate you and make you feel like you have a hangover all the time. Stay away!
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Whats wrong with smoked foods? And what about liquid smoke? They cause cancer. Don't eat smoked food.
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whens daves testolyze coming out? i wanna see whats in it I was supposed to get it tomorrow.......It's delayed till early next week. I will have ARTHROLYZE in stock tomorrow evening.....
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I have been lifting for a little over two years now and I really want to put on alot of mass. I am 6'2" 195lbs and even though I am and have been eating EVERY day ( around 400 grams carbs) I still do not put the weight on easy. I take in 250 - 300 grams of protein as well. Anyways I am really thinking about doing a cycle with test maybe even GH but before I do I just got a product from "IDS" called "Bulk Tabs" and wanted to see what thay can do for me.
Bulk Tabs Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Servings Per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving:
Anabolic Amplifier Proprietary Blend 150mg
Hoelenen, Buplurium, Bergamottin.
BulkGro Proprietary Blend 350mg
Green Tea, Milk Thistle, Chrysin, 6 Bromo 3, 17 dioxoetioallcholane, Acetyl L Carnatine, 3, 17 Anabol, Epimedium Sagittatum, 3beta-hydroxy-5a-Androst-1-ene-17one. I don't think this product will do anything for you........
In your opinion do you think these tabs can help me or do I need to go on a cycle? If so what can you recommend a good starting cycle for some awesome mass?? Thank you Dave!!! If you're looking for size gains, stick with the "real" thing...... Try 100mg EQ EOD and 200mg Deca 2x per week for 12 weeks.
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I hear some people use Crystal Light? That has Malto in it, does anyone know how much? I find it easy to drink a gallon of this stuff per day, but would that be too much on this diet?
There's nothing bad in there:
Ingredients: CITRIC ACID (PROVIDES TARTNESS), POTASSIUM AND SODIUM CITRATE (CONTROL ACIDITY), ASPARTAME (SWEETENER), MAGNESIUM OXIDE (PREVENTS CAKING), CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF NATURAL FLAVOR, LEMON JUICE SOLIDS, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM (SWEETENER), ARTIFICIAL COLOR, YELLOW 5 LAKE, BHA (PRESERVES FRESHNESS).
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I am currently taking BCAAs, creatine and glutamine immediately post work out in water and then 20-30 min later drinking a whey isolate shake. Is this practice productive or counter productive on your ketosis diet plan when trying to get ripped? It's a waste of time........throw the creatine into your whey isolate and all natural PB shake and ditch the other crap!
If you were to advice against BCAAs and Glutamine when dieting then when I do cardio immediately post work out should I sip a little whey isolate instead of the BCAAs just to fight muscle catabolism? You're not gonna lose any muscle if your cardio is low intensity. Everyone thinks it's so easy to lose muscle. It is only if you start adding your own "insights"......... if you're following my protocols, you won't lose anything.
Thank you very much Dave for this truely awsome thread and not to mention of course your great tasting whey protein isolates ! ! ! Glad you enjoy ISOLYZE!
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Dave what are your thoughts on L-Dopa for fatburning, or for natural GH release? Thanks
I know that AUTHOR L REA like L-Dopa for GH release but I'm a little scared about screwing up dopamine sensitivity by taking too much L-Dopa.... I think it's not worth the slight increase in GH you "might" get.
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Jako mi je zao sto ne stizem da prevedem textove zbog nedostatka vremena.....
Another problem I see is that I have trouble getting from 16 to 14 % BF, but when I get to 14 I can drop to 10 or 11% easier. It is like my body 'figures out' what i am trying to do. Does this make sense or am I talking out of my ass? My question would be if this is possible can I drastically drop kcal until I get to 14% (maybe 2 weeks at a dramatic cut, with BCAA supps galore to spare muscle) and then go on this diet or would my metabolism be ****ed if I dropped it too quickly. Just follow the diet and be patient...........any time you do something too drastic, you're risking problems.
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Well I am using the cutting diet Dave has, switching over from my VLCD that was very similar. My question is I have a bunch of supplements that I have just laying aorund that were either given to me or I purchased. I've never taken gear or anything of the sort, but what i have laying around are AMS 4- AD and Arom-X, Xyience XTEST And XNGF (natural growth factor).
Is it worth taking any of these? Save it and experiment in the offseason.
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I live in sunny South-Africa and was wondering when your products will be available in our country? I already ship to several customers there. Feel free to order!
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thanks for the answer
Testo + deca ?
because , testo + tremb , maybe produce gyno . maybe? If you're not sure give it a try. Most people don't get gyno from TRENBOLONE.
Add Femara to combat the possible gyno ? Gyno from TREN is caused by too much prolactin. To combat that, take 1/2mg Dostinex every 3rd day.
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I am in need of some new wrist straps and wanted to know how your new hand gripper wrist straps compare to standard wrist straps? Also, how long does a pair last? They will probably last you forever! Once you use them, I guarantee that you'll think they're the best straps you every used.........and I bet you'll never use a conventional pair of straps again! http://davepalumbo.com/ProductsPages...20Products.htm
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You said coffee is fine, but no concentrated stimulant pills. I'm guessing you mean hydroxycut, ripped fuel, ephedrine. YEP!
What about energy drinks like Redline or Endorush? I don't recommend them. The final choice, of course, is always yours! Stimulants are not for bodybuilders. It's the worst drug choice you can make.
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Dave, I am advising a freind of mine to do cardio on an empty stomach with a cup of coffee first thing in the morning. He cant seem to handle doing the cardio with no food at all, is there anything he can take or eat that will keep the cardio effective for fat burning? Tell him to drink 2 glasses of water.....then try it. You'll be surprised how much better he'll feel.
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hey dave, what do u think about saunas, can they help preontest? They can help dehydrate you and make you feel like you have a hangover all the time. Stay away!
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Whats wrong with smoked foods? And what about liquid smoke? They cause cancer. Don't eat smoked food.
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whens daves testolyze coming out? i wanna see whats in it I was supposed to get it tomorrow.......It's delayed till early next week. I will have ARTHROLYZE in stock tomorrow evening.....
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I have been lifting for a little over two years now and I really want to put on alot of mass. I am 6'2" 195lbs and even though I am and have been eating EVERY day ( around 400 grams carbs) I still do not put the weight on easy. I take in 250 - 300 grams of protein as well. Anyways I am really thinking about doing a cycle with test maybe even GH but before I do I just got a product from "IDS" called "Bulk Tabs" and wanted to see what thay can do for me.
Bulk Tabs Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Servings Per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving:
Anabolic Amplifier Proprietary Blend 150mg
Hoelenen, Buplurium, Bergamottin.
BulkGro Proprietary Blend 350mg
Green Tea, Milk Thistle, Chrysin, 6 Bromo 3, 17 dioxoetioallcholane, Acetyl L Carnatine, 3, 17 Anabol, Epimedium Sagittatum, 3beta-hydroxy-5a-Androst-1-ene-17one. I don't think this product will do anything for you........
In your opinion do you think these tabs can help me or do I need to go on a cycle? If so what can you recommend a good starting cycle for some awesome mass?? Thank you Dave!!! If you're looking for size gains, stick with the "real" thing...... Try 100mg EQ EOD and 200mg Deca 2x per week for 12 weeks.
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I hear some people use Crystal Light? That has Malto in it, does anyone know how much? I find it easy to drink a gallon of this stuff per day, but would that be too much on this diet?
There's nothing bad in there:
Ingredients: CITRIC ACID (PROVIDES TARTNESS), POTASSIUM AND SODIUM CITRATE (CONTROL ACIDITY), ASPARTAME (SWEETENER), MAGNESIUM OXIDE (PREVENTS CAKING), CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF NATURAL FLAVOR, LEMON JUICE SOLIDS, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM (SWEETENER), ARTIFICIAL COLOR, YELLOW 5 LAKE, BHA (PRESERVES FRESHNESS).
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I am currently taking BCAAs, creatine and glutamine immediately post work out in water and then 20-30 min later drinking a whey isolate shake. Is this practice productive or counter productive on your ketosis diet plan when trying to get ripped? It's a waste of time........throw the creatine into your whey isolate and all natural PB shake and ditch the other crap!
If you were to advice against BCAAs and Glutamine when dieting then when I do cardio immediately post work out should I sip a little whey isolate instead of the BCAAs just to fight muscle catabolism? You're not gonna lose any muscle if your cardio is low intensity. Everyone thinks it's so easy to lose muscle. It is only if you start adding your own "insights"......... if you're following my protocols, you won't lose anything.
Thank you very much Dave for this truely awsome thread and not to mention of course your great tasting whey protein isolates ! ! ! Glad you enjoy ISOLYZE!
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Dave what are your thoughts on L-Dopa for fatburning, or for natural GH release? Thanks
I know that AUTHOR L REA like L-Dopa for GH release but I'm a little scared about screwing up dopamine sensitivity by taking too much L-Dopa.... I think it's not worth the slight increase in GH you "might" get.
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is taco bell ok to eat when i have my cheat/carb up meal? not to sure on what food to eat when i carb up. and how much carbs is to much when carbing up That's fine!
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should i carb up twice a week or once. i'm clean sunday thru friday i cheat on satruday should i add aday or just make it one day You can have 2 cheat meals per week in the offseason.
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It seems to me that someone who is type 1 diabetic and not a bodybuilder would benefit greatly from your keto diet, wouldn't they?? I mean the amount of slin they need to use would have to go way down wouldn't it??. It's a great diet to follow. My gf Colette is a type 1 Diabetic since she's 12 years old and she does great on the diet. In fact, her insulin requirements dramatically drop while on a ketogenic diet.
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Hey Dave, was Mighty Mike Quinn serious about coming back in the NY Pro? He says he definitely IS!
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hey when i took the armour at 150/37 t4/t3 per day i lost an amazing amount of fat in only 3 weeks. but all the times i took t3 it never did anything.
and my friend now wants the rest of my t3 because she has loosing weight big time after only 14 days.
the reason i went up in dosage so quickly because it wasnt working. i did
14 days at 25mcg
14 days at 50 mcg
21 days at 100 mcg.
7 weeks is a long time for thyroid hormones not to work at all.
i was just wondering if anyones else has experienced this. Everyone is so preoccupied with whether a drug is "WORKING". Cytomel is not a stimulant and it can't cause you to lose 10lbs of fat per week. Along with a smart diet, exercise program, and enough rest, cytomel will up the fat burning process by about 10-15%. Increasing your dosages up to 100mcg in 21 days is insanity. YOu were probably losing muscle (if anything). Also, cytomel should always be combined with clenbuterol or GH for maximal fat burning effects.
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I know we have some people here that have used Cissus. I was wondering if I can take Cissus with food or if it has to be taken on an empty stomach??? With food is always best for nutritional herbs. I would be careful of taking too much of the stuff since blocking inflammation can inhibit muscle growth.
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I'm currently 8 weeks out for my show,a little behind,standing in the 9-10% range...
I'm using it right now a very High Protein and moderate carbs,low fat diet...
Since i'm a bit behind i was thinking in giving your diet a try...
I'm currently taking 2.280 calories per day,i'm 5'8 201 pounds,i'm already on two cardio sessions per day both 45 minutes,one in empty stomach,other in the evening...This what it came off of your diet:
Please tell me if you agree and if the numbers seems right:
Meal #1.-.
4 Whole Eggs & 6 Egg Whites
Pro:46 grams;Fat:21 grams;Carbs:4 grams
Meal #2.-.
2.5 Scoops of Whey Protein Isolated
Pro:58 grams;Fat:0 grams;Carbs;0 grams
1.5 TBSP of Natty Peanut Butter
Pro:6 grams;Fat:12 grams;Carbs:5 grams
Meal #3.-.
217 grams Chicken Breast(Measured Raw)
Pro:50 grams;Fat:2 grams;Carbs:0 grams
25 Almonds Unroasted
Pro:6 grams;Fat:15 grams;Carbs:6 grams
Meal #4.-.
2.5 Scoops of Whey Protein Isolated
Pro:58 grams;Fat:0 grams;Carbs;0 grams
1.5 TBSP of Natty Peanut Butter
Pro:6 grams;Fat:12 grams;Carbs:5 grams
Meal #5.-.
217 grams Chicken Breast(Measured Raw)
Pro:50 grams;Fat:2 grams;Carbs:0 grams
1 TBSP Olive Oil
Pro:0 grams;Fat:14 grams;Carbs:0 grams
1 Cup Green Beans
Pro:2 grams;Fat:0 grams;Carbs:8 grams
Meal #6.-.
3 Whole Eggs & 5 Egg Whites
Pro:40 grams;Fat:16 grams;Carbs:4 grams
TOTALS:
Calories:2.275 Calories
Pro:321 Grams=58%(1283 Calories)
Fat:94 Grams=38%(848 Calories)
Carbs:32 Grams=4%(86 Calories)
LOOKS GREAT!
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What is the recommended dosage on your new joint product? 5 pills of ARTHROLYZE taken 2x per day gives you: 4000mg Glucoseamine, 4000mg MSM, 1000mg Chondroiten, and 6mg Boron
And also when is testostylyze (sp) coming out? 2-3 weeks.
Is it true that you stated that you don't have to cycle off gaspari's nolvadex xt and your new product? True!If so what will be your recommended dosage on your new product? 3 pills per day.
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If following the "Palumbo Performance Diet"
and you had the choice of MHP Probolic SR or Prosource Nitro Whey (link below), which would you choose? Currently unemployed and short on funds...
http://www.prosource.net/product.jsp?path=-1|6477&id=239
I like the PROSOURCE product......
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Kudos for keeping this Q and A, it is priceless. I have a short Q. I'd like to get into contact with Dennis Newman. I have searched the net, but had no luckm can't find an official website. Could you PM me his contact details so I can E-mail him. Appreciating your effort for your help inhumannewman@yahoo.com
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whats the deal with sodium in the off season , whats a good range to stay around , dont wanna have to much in a day Enjoy yourself. Eat as much as you want!
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I know you said no sorbitol,
because in large amounts it has laxative effects, but Im in Germany and their arent many options, would the amount that would be in a stick of gum be too much? Nah, that's a very small amount in gum
Also, what do you know about huxol, its the only artifical sweetner I can find here. Thanks so much! It contains saccharin. That's fine if you like the taste!
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I know it's been covered,but when is the best time to take the psyllium husk? AM,PM, with or without food. Will it affect supplement absorbtion? I take it in the morning and at night (with meals)....but it can be taken between meals too. You can take it with all supplements except fatty acids (take those separately). GIve my new DUAL soluble fiber (psyllium) and insoluble fiber (wheat bran) supplement, FIBERLYZE a try!
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Hey Dave got a question for you when U do GH And Insulin can you put them in the same syringue for the injection ??? no
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Dave, I have been running the diet with great success for about 8 weeks. I recently started using your fiber supplement. Fiberlyze I think it is called. Anyway, since then I have had trouble getting into ketosis. Do you think its just a bad batch of keto sticks or could the fiber supplement be taking me out? If you're not eating carbs, believe me, you're in ketosis. Ketostix are not always very accurate. Fiber would have no bearing on that.
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Ok... Dave. Let's say someone is doing a show on December 31, the last day of the year. The day is not important - the question is.
For a person preparing for the show, doing a off-season steroid cycle, and a pre-contest cycle - how should this be laid out...
for example...
8 weeks offseason, drugs and eating - 4 weeks post cycle, off-season eating - 16 weeks pre-contest, drugs and diet...?
Basically, I'm asking the question - "If you're taking drugs to put on mass, how should you time this in relation to your show and pre-contest cycle?" I'd go straight from the OFFSEASON into the PRECONTEST cycle (no break). Take a break AFTER the show!
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How much do you charge for an appearance fee? It would be cool if you could come visit SUNY Cortland, we have some kids doing a natural show in May and I think your diet and training tips would be great Contact me at Huge285@aol.com
HMG ???( Menotropin ) . HMG is LH & FSH compared to HCG which contains only LH and only causes a slight increase in testicle size. FSH stimulates the Sertoli cells to raise sperm output and cause a
much greater increase in testicle size than LH alone. Men who have used HMG report that their testicles have returned to normal size after long training cycles and frequently much bigger
HCG and HMG both contain LH and FSH............HCG contains MORE LH and less FSH ............ HMG contains more FSH and less LH
The key is that LH stimulates testosterone while FSH stimulate sperm cell production. Therefore, HCG is the preferred PCT drug!
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how safe is Oral masteron 45 mg for men ???? and would u recommend anything else for cutting besides it , that is safer ? I'm not sure how absorbable oral masteron is........i'd stick to the injectable form at 100mg 3x per week.
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Was wondering on the diet about Spray butter? Says nothings in it but wondered what your thoughts are on it. if you can limit yourself to 4 sprays per day (which is next to impossible). If you start using a bottle per day, just throw it out the window.
Also is there a limit on diet soda a dayno, enjoy!Also the off brand crystal light says it has nothing but on the list malto is listed. Then, don't go too crazy with it. Maltodextrin is NO GOOD!
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im not sure how fine of a line it is between a huge cheat meal and going beyond that to where its detrimental...If you can't distinguish, then err on the side of LESS IS BETTER!
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Is it ok to have Cucumber and/or green pepper on your salad at night? YES
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what is the most cardio you would ever do at one session(postworkout) for a natural when following the Palumbo Diet? Is 60 minutes okay to do at one session because it would be much easier to do that than to do two 30 minute sessions I'd say 60 min max per session.
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hey dave. I get blood work done every 3 months because i am on Hrt therapy. my thyroid levels have always been normal. when i started this t3 i started at 25 mcg for 2 weeks. when i took the armour i lost weight and could tell a difference in 2 weeks. i lost weight at that time for no reason, didnt change diet or cardio, the weight was just coming off. it worked great for just 3 weeks at 150 mcg/37.5 mcg (t4/T3) per day. i then stopped because i got really lean in that 3 weeks. anyway after 2 weeks of this t3 nothing happened so then i bumped it up to 50 mcg for 2 weeks and nothing. and keep in mind im eating clean and doing cardio just as before taking this. after 4 weeks nothing so then to see if it was fake i took 100 mcg for 3 weeks and i actually gained 3 lbs during this whole 7 week process. i got my thyroid checked on week 7 and took 100 mcg that morning before the test. my blood test came back normal. It's probably fake. Either that or you shut down your natural production and now the 100mcg you're taking is just replacing what you naturally produce.
my female friend has lost so much weigth on this stuff she wants me to give her the rest of mine. all her friends are telling her shes to skinny. she love it. she has taken t3 several times and is experienced.
so you think if it was real t3 my tests could still show normal thryoid thyroid levels?
it is my 3rd time taking t3 from different places and it has never worked for me. the only time it worked amazingly was when i took the armour.
i know you going to say "SHUT UP THEN AND TAKE THE ARMOUR!! AND QUITE BUGGING ME"...........but it pisses me off.
i do have armour on the way. but it pisses me off that nothing happens when i take the t3. i would just assume that all the stuff ive gotten from 3 different sources is that it is fake. i would believe this until my friend started taking it and dropping so much weight its ridiculous. and she has always worked out and dieted and done cardio. she is really fit. so its not like she changed anything.
sorry for the long email im just frustrated......
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if I train chest on monday and then do back on tuesday and do dumbell pullovers for back would that overtrain my chest or would I be fine? FINE!
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I see you are going to guest pose at the Heart of Texas in Plano later this year. Will you also be doing a seminar? Looking forward to seeing Collette and yourself. Colette will guest pose and I'm doing a seminar!
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whats a good 15wk comp cutting cycle that will not come up in a piss test? GH and CYTOMEL! THey don't test for these two PERFECT! Add in my LIPOLYZE product and you have a potent trio of fat burners!
Dave
If I can not obtain GH, what would be your next choice(s)?just skip it!
If I can get GH, How much would you use in that short period of time?2iu per day
Thanks
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Dave, when should one stop the usage of tren acetate before a contest?
Never. Take it up to and including the day of the show!
DAVE.. whne injecting igf, do you believe that there is localized growth in the muscle injected?.. or is it like gh and dispersed into the body and growth is stimulated evenly.. i would think a muscle start to take on odd shape if growth where actually localized..
It's a sytemic effect.....
I woke up with brutal Angina last night (felt like a lightening bolt to my chest) - i am on yohimbine and smaller doses of Clen. Any way to identify the culprit - likely Clen?
IF IT WAS REALLY CHEST PAIN.........go to the DOCTOR! No messing around. Just don't confuse CRAMPING (from CLEN) with HEAVY, CRUSHING, "HEART PAIN" (ANGINA).
DAVE- WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON TAKING ADD MEDICATIONS SUCH AS ADERAL, RITALIN FOR ENERGY AND FAT LOSS PURPOSES. I TOOK SOME FROM A FREIND AND HAD AN INCREDIBLE FOCUS AND INTENSITY IN THE GYM. IT ALSO KILLED MY SUGAR CRAVINGS FROM A VERY STRICT CONTEST DIET. ANY THOUGHTS ON THE SUBJECT.
And after ADDERAL, you can progress to CRYSTAL METH.......... stay away from AMPHETAMINES (they're very addictive) and remember, THERE"S NO FREE MEALS. When you stop them, you CRASH hard!. Plus, they stress out your body. Stimulants are the worse drugs for bodybuilders to take.
Without manipulating sodium and without loading potassium, and keeping water high until Fri., how would you incorporate lasix into the final week/ days. I understand that it is not potassium sparing, but it is all I got. Different for women?
thanks
40mg the night before and 40mg the morning of the show (I hate Lasix because its hard to control). For women, the same dosage should work. Maybe use 3/4 of that dose for small girls.
can you mix those in one shot? igf + gh
Separate syringes.
Dave, you said Toney Freeman actually made gain on the no carb diet along with low calories, I find the same my nutrionist (before I learned on my own) was amazed I could maintain size and actually even grow on low calories, do you think this is a matter of just responding well to 'gear"? (I'm on test, eq, tren) or is it a matter of your body priortizing muscle gain first and foremost, or a metabolism issue..hope that made sense..
When you give the body what it needs (protein and essential fats), it GROWS..... When I met TONEY he wasn't consuming enough fats is his diet so that the introduction of these fats (even while dieting) was enough of a stimulus to stimulate new muscle gains!
drink 2 different Zero carb whey isolate protein drinks. I get a muscle pump within 30 minutes of drinking them. Does this have any negative affects on ketosis. It feels great and I think this helps me maintain muscle but is it hurting my fat loss in any way.
If you're drinking them AS A MEAL (fine).....if you're just subsituting them in as EXTRA meals, NO GOOD
What are your thoughts on N.O. Explode from BSN pre-workout during your contest prep diet? Its got 7g of carbs and 0g sugar. Supposedly helps with energy and pumps.
NO DICE!
For a saturday show, WHEN would you introduce carbs back into the diet for the load?
I picked up a bottle of the Xpel from mhp. When would I begin to use that?
It says to use 4 pills 2xday. Do you reccomend using more or sticking with the protocal written on the bottle?
Carb loading is started, in my opinion, THUR and FRIDAY before a SATURDAY morning show. This is assuming that the person is IN SHAPE........otherwise, i might limit it to just FRIDAY.
I usually advise people to take 2 XPEL with each meal on the FRIDAY before the show.
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Odlican tekst, Polomac............i odlicna dijeta !
Svakako probati....
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Hvala Marijane,samo kazem,zao mi je sto ne stizem da prevedem.....
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Hvala Marijane,samo kazem,zao mi je sto ne stizem da prevedem.....
Ma razumijemo mi tebe!
Anyway, good job!!! ;bravi;
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Pa mislim da ljudi uglavnom znaju engleski...Moras probati tu dijetu, strasno je efikasna. Sto si duze na dijeti, organizam se, naravno, prilagodjuje na dijetu, pa su potrebne neke modifikacije kako se progres ne bi zaustavio
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Hvala Marijane,samo kazem,zao mi je sto ne stizem da prevedem.....
Ma razumijemo mi tebe!
Anyway, good job!!! ;bravi;
thanks' man..Pa mislim da ljudi uglavnom znaju engleski...Moras probati tu dijetu, strasno je efikasna. Sto si duze na dijeti, organizam se, naravno, prilagodjuje na dijetu, pa su potrebne neke modifikacije kako se progres ne bi zaustavio
radio sam nesto slicno,i strasno sam bio nervozan,ali imalo je efekta...
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uhhhhhhhh odlicni textovi!!!
tnx Polomac
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http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=2915
Enjoy it !
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uhhhhhhhh odlicni textovi!!!
tnx Polomac
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=2915
Enjoy it !
;think; e upravo to,nego posto je Dave odgovarao na vec preko 600 strana izvlacim po nesto na neki sazetak...
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sto ljudi ...sto cudi..
meni ovaj sistem ama bas ni malo ne radi...probao..i uradio sam samo sranje..pogtovo sa upotrebom hemije pred takmicenje
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Za mene je najbolji Chris Aceto ,sta on kaze i sta predlaze za vreme dieti i pre takmicenje.. To funkcionise extra. Aceto Expert za BB ischrana
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pa eto..kao sto rekoh..
ali pogledja marijna..on je uradio vrhunsku formu po savetima palumba..jbg..svakomenesto drugacije ide..
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Ja puno puta nisam mogao da iskontrolisem ponasanje,takodje sam imao i padove energije,radilo jeste,ali neznam da li bih ponovo to ponovio...
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Ja puno puta nisam mogao da iskontrolisem ponasanje...
vidi ga ovaj agresivni.... :lol:
znaci ljudi begajte kad polomac opet bude na toj dieti... :lol:
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Ja puno puta nisam mogao da iskontrolisem ponasanje...
vidi ga ovaj agresivni.... :lol:
znaci ljudi begajte kad polomac opet bude na toj dieti... :lol:
Bogami i da se zezas,ali duze vreme necu na dijetu....... kaze LEE Preast-sit srecan i deboo... :lol: : :lol:
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Cut out the creatine 2 weeks before your show..........just to play it safe.
As for IGF-1.......I suggest taking it with anabolic steroids. GH is optional. Take 10mcg per day for 4 weeks straight.......and follow that by 2 weeks off........then repeat.
Can you use Clen all the way up to contest time... will it help with getting dry? I've never used it before but was thinking of possibly using it this year starting 3-6 weeks out.
DAVE-If you use clenbuterol as a pre-contest fat burner.........MAKE SURE YOU DO STAY ON IT RIGHT UP TO THE DAY OF THE SHOW (you certainly don't wan't to negatively rebound a week before the show). For that matter, you shouldn't stop anything the week before the show. You're only asking for disaster.
Hi Dave,
Are there any real differences between the various types of GH on the market - blue tops, brown tops, Jinotrope, Humatrope, etc?
Also, I've heard that the effects of GH can alter the physique (in a positive manner) in what seems to be a permanent basis - e.g., that shoulder girth will be increased, metabolism/leaness increased, etc, even AFTER use ceases. Do you concur?
Thanks in advance for your insight
DAVE-GH is pretty much GH........... purchase whatever is cheapest..........just make sure it's the 191 amino acid sequence.
The reason it appears that you build muscle even AFTER you stop the GH is that the new muscle cells that have be produced by a process known as HYPERPLASIA require 3-9 months to increase in size enough to be noticed. Remember, they are immature, tiny, myocytes. So, the results from the GH you take today might not been seen until 6 months from now.
dave loving your diet ! but the no carbs are killing me why am i craving it so much. no wonder why i cna compete first week and im struggling i love fucking food haha. going to diet for the arnold.
i mean im dieting like for a show but following you diet can i add any more carbe like asaprus brown rice etc or will that defeat the purpose
diet is as follows
1)meal one shake with all natural peanut butter
train hour to hour and half
2)then shake
3)hour later red meat with a salad and olives
4) chicken steamed or grilled with peanuts or almonds and i added some aspargus cooked
5) 4 eggs 2 whole with some grits
20 min of treadmill cardio
6) peice of fish with some salad
7) shake with peanut butter
what you think?? im craving carbs is it ok i through in the esparagus and grits its only 18carbs the grits
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DAVE-Derek...you're hungry because you're not eating enough fat. In fact, you haven't even listed quantities of anything so it's hard to see where you're going wrong. Get rid of those carbs and start eating the correct quantities of fat and protein and you won't crave anything.
Meal 1 6 whole Omega-3 eggs
Meal 2 8oz chicken with 1/2 cup raw almonds
Meal 3 50g whey with 2 tablespoons all natural peanutbutter
Meal 4 8oz salmon with 1 cup asparagus with 1 tablespoon macadamia nut oil
Meal 5 50 g whey with 2 tablespoon PB
Meal 6 6 whole eggs
This is typically how i start off most clients diets.........then there's modifications along the way and I have to cater it according to how hte client looks.
1) do you think insulin post workout is a good mass building regime.. some pros state that they belive that it is worthless.. some state it is what is bringing the freaks of today..? It's only good if you NEED the extra insulin. If you don't, you'll just get fat.
2) what do you think of cycles that are based predominately on anabolic compounds instead of anabolic compounds.. say 500 test as base, then the rest based on mainly anabolics (eq, deca, ect) in higher dosages..?Half the equation for mass cycles are comprised of TESTOSTERONE and the other half is a synthetic Anabolic like EQ, TREN, DECA, or D-BOL
3)a well known trainer has come out and said that he belived that high dose anavar (around a100mgs a day) was in his opinion the best oral steroid today.. what is your opinion of anavar..?I think all ORAL STEROIDS for MEN suck
4) i know you like long cycles.. but, what about doing cycles of 6 weeks and taking 4 weeks off (based on using fast acting esters to clear the system quickly.. i know a few competitors doing this (blast / cruise) and are reaping good benefits.. curious as to if you think this could be a feasiable alternative to your longer cycles..I beleive that once you build new muscle, you must reinforce the gains. You must Re-Set your body's homeostatic set point. This applies equally well when you're attempting to lose weight. Once you've lost your last pound, you must maintain the weight loss for several weeks to months before it becomes permanent.
5)also.. in regards to form.. many competitors (branch for example) use a short non lock tempo on thier pressing movements.. allowing them to use more weight in the porrtion of the press that targets the muscle in question.. do you do this or do you always lock out.. if so ..why..?/ It only works well for guys with short limbs (Lee PRiest, Branch, ect) Bodybuilders with long limbs need to do full range moveme
Whatt´s up Dave? This is a very interesting thread. I´d like to know if a post-workout shake for a diabetic athlete could have simple carbs in it.
Thanks for all the info!
DAVE-If you're diabetic, you can still have a fast carb post workout drink, you just need to take enough humalog to cover the carbs. If you took 50g Vitargo, for instance, you'd need to take about 5 units of Humalog in addition to whatever else you take. My gf Colette is a type 1 Diabetic and she's the one to ask with regard to how much and what types of insulin to take. Ask her over on the Women's Bodybuilding board.
Dave, I was doing lunges the other day and felt a small pain in my knee (above kneecap). Now, it only hurts when I go through the motions of lungin, used icy hot but that shit aint doin nuthin. what are some other suggestions?
DAVE-Sounds like you strained the ligaments in your knee. Take 6000mg glucosamine per day and 6000mg MSM per day............. also, purchase hydrolyzed beef collagen (pills or powder) and do 2 servings per day.
DAVE-I have to tell you the truth. Post workout I've started using VITARGO. Vitargo is a high molecular weight carbohydrate that empties from the stomach faster than dextrose and it doesn't cause bloating because the water gets pulled into the muscle (rather than filling up the stomach and intestines). Usually I mix 50-70g Vitargo with 50g whey protein and swig that down pre and post workout (in the offseason). I just started selling VITARGO on my website (www.davepalumbo.com). It comes in Fruit punch and Unflavored. I suggest unflavored if you're mixing with Chocolate whey.
hey dave,
on your advice i bumped up my glucosamine/msm intake up past the typical 1500mg. its actually helped a good bit over the last few months. anyway, whats your take on the scientific claims that long term glucosamine use may cause insulin resistance? thanks
DAVE-Eating sugar will cause insulin resistance..........not glucosamine............trust me!
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I recently got
36 sostenon 250.
16 deca-durablin 50mg.
30 andriol tc 40mg capsulas.
20 stenox (fluoximesterna 2.5mg tablets).
50 oxyflux clenbuterol tablets 0.02 mg.
what is the best way to take what i have to make modest gains and lose fat???? i weight 280 and could stand to lose about 40 pounds.
Im a naturally big muscualr guy and have never taken any anabolics before. i figured im 36 and never taken any and would like to hit a good cycle and make some gains that will stick. thanks for your help
DAVE-500mg Sustanon per week with 100mg deca (8 weeks)
500mg Sustanon per week with 120mg Andriol per day (6 week)
2 clen per day during the entire 14 weeks
DAVE-IGF-GH-INSULIN STACK
2-4IU GH upon waking with 4-6IU Humulin-R
10-20mcg IGF-1 After you train with 4IU Humulin-R
GROWTH HORMONE is only dangerous if you have a pre-existing cancer in your body. In this case, the GH will make the tumor cells grow faster. If you are healthy, however, GH should enhance your immune system and thus prevent any cancer cells from forming to begin with.
STEROIDS and the PROSTATE:
Excessive DHT doesn't cause prostate problems in my estimation. It's the ratio of estrogen to DHT that's the problem. Think about it, 18 year old boys have the largest amount of DHT in their bodies yet they don't get prostate enlargement ............. As we age, however, our testosterone and thus DHT levels decrease and the ratio of DHT:ESTROGEN decreases. There's more ESTROGEN and less DHT.............It's the estrogen that sensitizes the prostate cells to DHT and thus causes the cells to excessively enlarge. The trick is to DECREASE ESTROGEN (with an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex) and increase testostereone slightly with testosterone replacement.
Arimidex has been shown to lower HDL cholesterol a bit, however, other than that, it's relatively safe to take long term; especially if it keeps your elevated estrogen levels down. If you're only taking it because you have gyno, perhaps you should consider having the surgery to get the glands removed.
Dave what do you reccomend for cardio w/o gear for cuttin 202-5 in 16 weeks. Is 30 minutes every day on an empty stomach at 60-70% of max heart rate enough?
DAVE-CARDIO should be performed at a low intensity (under 120bpm heartrate). This will ensure that you use FAT as a fuelsource since as your heartrate increase, carbohydrates begin to become the preferred fuel of choice for the body. When on a low carb diet, you're body will break down muscle and turn that into carbs. Remember, Fat CANNOT be changed into carbs. Therefore, for bodybuilding, the rule of cardio should be LONG DURATION, LOW INTENSITY
THANKS DAVE FOR THE REPLY.. speaking of test.. what is your opinion of test only cycles.. maybe just 750 mgs of test a week.. anti e and nothing else.. would it work well in your opinion with out a anabolic?
DAVE-It was always my belief that you can take TESTOSTERONE alone and grow just as good as if you took other things with it. Testosterone is, after all, the main muscle building hormone in the male body. 200-300mg Test per week is great for maintainance of muscle; however, as your dosage rises over 500mg per week, muscle gains start dramatically increasing. Ideally, 750-1000mg of Testosterone per week will yield the best gains.
DAVE-FOR WEIGHT GAIN:
Follow my same formula. . . High protein (50g per meal), Moderate Fat (25g per meal), and moderate carbs (35-50g per meal). If you're a hard gainer, eat 8-10 meals. If you're an easy gainer (but get fat easily), stick to 6 meals per day.
TENDON STRENGTH:
All anabolic steroids strengthen MUSCLE TISSUE only. They have no effect on tendons and ligaments. Some anabolics like Deca exert an anti-inflamatory effect on joints but they still have no effect on connective tissue (ligaments, tendons, cartilage). GH, (and thus IGF-1) have an effect on muscle and connective tissue. They will strengthen and rebuild joint integrity, ligaments, tendons, and cartilage coated surfaces (including knee menisci)
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Dave,
I have a question for you. With all the hype as well as the controversy surrounding the use of coconut oil as a fat source, what do you think of it? The only thing I noticed with it when I used it a couple of years ago was that it makes me do #2. I always see it in the supplement store and wonder about it. You're the only person I'd bother asking about it as I know you'll know if it is of any value to us. Thanks.
DAVE-Virgin Coconut Oil is a MEDIUM CHAIN SATURATE FAT. Because it's not a long chain fatty acid, it avoids digestion, processing, and the need for a carrier molecule (L-carnitine) to get into the mitochondria to be burned for energy (oxidized). Becuase of this, Coconut oil (and all medium chain fats) have been called the FATLESS FAT. From a health standpoint, its a great immune system stimulator (lots of AIDS patients are now using it for its antiviral properties). We must remember, however, that Coconut Oil is not an essential fat and, in my estimation, is useless when dieting. What it's good for as supplemental calories and fats while on a MASS BUILDING program. I used to put one teaspoon in my morning Oatmeal. Give's it some moisture and a nice coconut taste. I wouldn't advise cooking with it however. Stick with the heart healthy monounsaturated fat, MACADAMIA NUT OIL.
dave.. last question on test.. i swear .. what do you recommend for prostate health when on a high test (androgen) cycle.. ? i am concerned about prostate health and know that dht can aggravate prostate enlargement ect..
PROSTATE HEALTH:
Take a good antiaromatase (Arimidex, or Femara-- 1mg every other day) along with a good DHT blocker (Propecia: 1mg per day). Also keep testosterone levels at 200-750mg per week (200mg if you're on replacement dosages)
DAVE-ORAL GLUTAMINE never makes it to the muscle as Glutamine (the intestinal cells steal up much of it). All the muscle studies with GLUTAMINE (in burn patients) are done with IV infused GLUTAMINE (not oral). Glutamine does happen to be very good for the GI TRACT and for immune system enhancement. That's why they give it to AIDS patients. The best way to increase intramuscular glutamine levels is by ingesting a good Whey Protein supplement since the muscle cells easily interconvert other amino acids into glutamine.
KYNOSELEN:
I used Kynoselen years ago as a fat burner while dieting. I'm not sure if it actually did anything. At the time, I asked DR SCOTT CONNELLY (inventor of MET-RX) what he thought about it and he said, "I can't see why it would build muscle or burn fat, but, HEY, I guess it can't hurt! There's a heck of a lot of vitamins in there." With that in mind, I wouldn't waste your money on it. Besides, it leave the injection site very sore after you inject.
BLOOD TYPE DIET:
I don't believe there is any credibility to that BLOOD TYPE DIET. GIMMICKS GIMMICKS GIMMICKS!!
Hows Jason Huh doing? I see that dude as a major threat here in the future. Maybe get some off season pics?
DAVE-JASON HUH
I'm still working with JASON and I think he'll really impress a lot of people this year when we get him onstage for the 2007 NPC JR NATIONALS.
DAVE-I recommend 8-10 meals for OFFSEASON MASS BUILDING. 6 meals for pre-contest dieting. There's no need for more than 6 meals when dieting. I only have TONEY FREEMAN eating 6 meals and he's huge!
DIET FOR NATURALS:
Everything stays exactly the same. The same principles apply to the body whether on drugs or not. High protein, moderate fat, low carb is the ideal environment for optimal fat burning/muscle preservation.
HIGH INTENSITY CARDIO
During high intensity cardio, the body requires ATP (energy) quickly and the oxidation of fatty acids take too long to generate sufficient ATP to keep up with the requirements, so the body automatically switches its metabolic machinery over to anaerobic respiration (which can only use glucose as a fuel source). This produces much less ATP, but it generates it at an extremely quick rate. In the absence of carbs in the diet, the body must synthesize its own glucose from amino acids. The best source of amino acids in the body is lean muscle tissue. So, when doing high intensity cardio in a diet absent in carbs, the body will break down muscle and turn it into glucose. Remember, fats cannot be turned into glucose (IMPOSSIBLE!)
FIRST CYCLES:
I beleive in sticking with the mild stuff when doing a first cycle since anything you do will work great. Try 400mg Deca per week with 50mg winstrol 3x per week........
NATURAL BODBUILDER:
The best natural testosterone booster is a potent anti-estrogen like 6-oxo or Gaspari's Novedex XT. The reason is that it's ESTROGEN that shuts down testosterone production in men. Therefore, if you inhibit the conversion of testosterone into estrogen, you'll allow your body to crank out more natural testosterone without the possibility of shutdown by excess estrogen.
FIRST CYCLE:
When you've never done a cycle, testosterone is unnecessary since ANYTHING will make you grow. You might as well stick with mild stuff.
PRECONTEST:
Never discontinue testosterone..... Keep it in right up the about 2-3 days out. The diet, diuretics, and water restriction that last 12 hours will get rid of any extra water.
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ja koliko sam citao da dave bas nema ovako smesne doze..cak sto vise....
a kruzila je prica da je prodavao fake GH..
e sada..ovo sto ja ovde rpocitash izlgeda kao med i melko i sve mi ima lokike..
poloms..jel ti to kreces u neke nove avanture>???
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ja koliko sam citao da dave bas nema ovako smesne doze..cak sto vise....
a kruzila je prica da je prodavao fake GH..
e sada..ovo sto ja ovde rpocitash izlgeda kao med i melko i sve mi ima lokike..
poloms..jel ti to kreces u neke nove avanture>???
Ma kakvi,nema potrebe za tolikim experimantima.Davove postove vadim jer ima tu i zanimljivih stvari,ima i lazi[VEROVATNO] a i ma i "IZMEDJU REDOVA"...
:lol: :lol:
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E to izmedju redova, je veoma zajebana stvar.
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DAVE-ALDACTONE
I hate aldactone. Why? Because aldactone works by inhibiting the hormone aldosterone. Aldosterone's job in the body is to reabsorb sodium and water. If you inhibit aldosterone's actions (with aldactone) and for some reason you happen to deplete out too much sodium to the point where you start cramping (a very common occurance), you have NO RECOURSE. Why? Because no matter how much sodium you take in, the body's ability to reabsorb it is "dead". With a balanced diuretic like DYAZIDE, which works by actively causing the kidney tubules to excrete sodium and water, if you happen to overdue it and you start cramping, the ingestion of a packet of salt with a shot glass full of water will easily re-balance your electrolytes and solve the problem (because aldosterone is still functioning normally).
What are your thoughts on AAS use and women? Not just in terms of female BB’s but those in figure and fitness as well. I’ve got a couple figure competitors I’ve been helping out and both have asked me about AAS use as well as fat burners such as clen and t-3. For the moment I’ve told them to hold off and that we’d dive into that if needed later down the road. In all honesty, although I feel comfortable advising males, when it comes to females I am a little more leery out of fear of seriously screwing them up. So in short, what is the best approach to take with this? Where is a good place to start? I’m not expecting to get an exact cycle plan from you on this or what not, just more of a general answer and your feelings on the matter…thanks.Women, in my estimation, shouldn't use anything stronger than anavar (which is pretty side effect free). Clenbuterol and Cytomel are acceptable fat burners. GH (in small dosages-- 1IU) are okay for short periods of time, as well. Interestingly, my LIPOLYZE fat burner works great on women with stubborn lower body fat.
POST CYCLE THERAPY (PCT)
2000IU HCG every 3rd day for a total of 5 shots followed by 100mg Clomid per day for 3 weeks. Stay on 1mg Arimidex or Femara every other day for the entire 5 week PCT.
Dave how would you dose and cycle of T3 and clen? Also would you take them all at once for a particular dose or split it up? Take 20mcg Clenbuterol 2x per day (increase by 20mcg per day every 2-3 weeks). Try not to exceed 120mcg per day). Cytomel: 25mcg per day (increase by 12.5mcg per day every 2-3 weeks) Try not to exceed 75mcg per day.
Always split up the dosage of clenbuterol (20mcg per dose).
what do you think of proviron as an anti-e.. i know you recommend arimedex or femara, but it sounds like proviron is better because it is actually anabolic.. what is your take?Proviron is an androgen; however, its not an anti-aromatase. It inhibits estrogen by blocking receptors (similar to nolvadex). Armidex and Femara block the coversion of testosterone into estrogen so that 1) You don't lose the precious testosterone and 2) you have no estrogen to worry about causing side effects. ARMIDEX and FEMARA are light years ahead of proviron in that respect.
Dave whats your take on halotestin for precontest?While it's true that I don't like orals, in the past we used to use 20mg Halotestin 2 weeks prior to a contest to really harden up (Halotestin is extremely high in non-aromatizing androgens); however, even since trenbolone returned to the marketplace (it was gone from 1992-about 1997), trenbolone has replaced halotestin. Trenbolone acetate is just as fast acting as Halo, its an injectable so there's much less liver toxicity and stomach irritation, and trenbolone glycogen loads the muscle at least 40% better than halotestin ever did. So, why even use HALOTESTIN?
Why? Several pro's recommend it over insulin
When you train do you take every set to failure and beyond or stop short?Not everyone needs INSULIN or METFORMIN. First off, if you're not taking GH, don't even waste your time. Secondly, if you are talking GH, then you'll only need insulin if you're "FLAT" all the time and you're not absorbing your food. Chances are you don't fall into that category (unless you're very lean by nature).
As for training, my slogan is "STIMULATE, DON'T ANNIHILATE!"
hi Dave . what is your thoughts on Insulin usage when carbing up for a show?Unnecessary. You should only be eating about 25-35g carbs per meal. With that amount of carbohydrates, there is no need for EXTRA insulin. You'll just get bloated.
I'm 24 yrs old and completely natural. I'm currently 5'9 220 and would like to test the waters...I saw where you stated earlier that Deca and Winstrol are a nice starting point. What are the dosages and duration of these two you recommend and why is this an ideal first cycle? Are there any other good combinations I could use for my initial foray? 400mg deca per week and 50mg winstrol every other day. Stay on this for 10-12 weeks. I like these two compounds because they are virtually side effect free and, as a first cycle, you'll get lots of gains.....with very few losses after the cycle is over.
1.) How many sets would you recommend for each bodypart? 6-10 sets
2.) Do you think training to failure bad for muscle growth? Vary your intensity. Train till the muscle gives out; not the joint!
3.) What do you think about incorporationg those intensity techniques such as Pre-Exhaust, decending sets, Supersets, Rest_Pause, forced reps, etc.to maximize growth? Once again, variation keeps the gains coming. Every so many workouts, try to incorporate different techniques to keep the body guessing
Is the use of uva ursi anywhere near as effective as dyazide if it's done right? Thanks. It works well, however, you need to take more of it than if you used Dyazide. Dyazide is easy..........a few halfs and you're as dry as a bone. UVA URSI takes a little more finesse. The LEAN FAST product i sell on my website has usnic acid and uva ursi in it. It works really well the last week before a show to help squeeze out that last bit of subcutaneous water.
For a natural bodybuilder who wants to use your contest diet just to lose weight do you suggest no cardio and let the diet and training do the work or do you suggest some low intensity cardio. Thanks.BIlly is right. Cardio is an integral part of precontest preparation especially since you can't use clenbuterol or cytomel to lose bodyfat./B]
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ako je neko momentalno na high fat diet preporucujem: whey+maslinovo ulje i cola light+maslinovo ulje
delikates splachine
sutra cu probat sa flaxseed oil da zamutim
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sto ne probas da zamutis sa kikiriki puterom?
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Mora naci natural kikiriki puter, ovo sve sto sam ja video ima secera, i jos nekih sranja, nije to taj. . .
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tesko se nalazi, treba ga iskopat.
isto tako i pored toliko vrsta maslinovog ulja treba potrefit pravo, da nije mjesano sa nekom drugom vrstom biljnog ulja. flaxseed da i ne spominjem
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Ja sam nalazio u bolje opremljenim radnjama zdrave hrane hladno cedjena maslinova ulja Grcka i Spanska zapakovana u limenke,a takodje i razne varijante natural kikiriki butera.Nego vezano za ovu dijetu..kada sam radio slicnu varijantu,zaista brzo se skidala masnoca,ali imao sam padove energije,nervozu,i gubitak punoce,no posteno pored niskih hidrata i masti su bile prilicno niske u odnosu na ovo sto Dave savetuje...
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@ H2SO4
Healthy fat/protein dijeta je vrlo jednostavna, a hrana je zacudjujuce ukusna, za razliku od drugih dijeta. Ako si primijetio u Palumbo-vim tekstovima, svaki obrok ima isti odnos F/P i mozes ih mijenjati po redosljedu ili jedna za drugi. Meni osobno shake nije drag pa ga mijenjam sa cvrstim obrokom. Isto tako, shake mozes pripremiti po uputstvu a umjesto kikiriki putera uzmes preporucenu kolicinu orasatih plodova. Maslinovo ulje mozes koristiti u mjesavini sa drugim uljima, vazan je sadrzaj Omega 3 masnih kiselina.
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Iskustva ljudi kazu da bas nije lako izdrzati ovu dijetu, postajes nervozan i razdrazljiv. . . mada ukusno zvuci. mmmm kikiriki buter
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@ H2SO4
Healthy fat/protein dijeta je vrlo jednostavna, a hrana je zacudjujuce ukusna, za razliku od drugih dijeta. Ako si primijetio u Palumbo-vim tekstovima, svaki obrok ima isti odnos F/P i mozes ih mijenjati po redosljedu ili jedna za drugi. Meni osobno shake nije drag pa ga mijenjam sa cvrstim obrokom. Isto tako, shake mozes pripremiti po uputstvu a umjesto kikiriki putera uzmes preporucenu kolicinu orasatih plodova. Maslinovo ulje mozes koristiti u mjesavini sa drugim uljima, vazan je sadrzaj Omega 3 masnih kiselina.
ma skapiro sam, nema frke.
nego kazem bas za to maslinovo ulje da cesto pojedini proizvodjaci razblazuju sa rafinisanim uljem i ko zna cime zbog jeftinije proizvodnje.
Iskustva ljudi kazu da bas nije lako izdrzati ovu dijetu, postajes nervozan i razdrazljiv. . . mada ukusno zvuci. mmmm kikiriki buter
jbg, carbs junkies
ja se odma naviknem, cak sam i jedva taj jedan cheat meal pojeo
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Why only extra virgin olive oil as opposed to regular olive oil?? Whats with the all the hype on sesame oil as being the better than omegas and stuff. I only read that from the ads on sesamin? which was basicaly sesame oil. If you took pure borage oil for the GLA would there be you still use primrose, or does borage cover that in all of the benifits that theu both provide.
Regular Olive Oil has been processed and, in doing so, has damaged the fragile monounsaturated fats in the Olive Oil. Olive Oil should be COLD PRESSED and stored in a dark container. When they bleach out the olive oil to give it a lighter color and less bitter taste, it destroys the healthy benefits.
I gave your back workout a try and loved it, Im starting to become a fan of the low volume high intensity training. The only other bodypart that im lacking in is shoulders, is there any chance i can get a workout for them?
Shoulders
Machine press or Dumbbell press, or Military Press—3 sets (4-10 reps)
Machine Lateral raises (one arm at time) 2 sets (8-10 reps)
Dumbbell or cable front raises 2 sets (10 reps)
Bent-over Dumbbell raises 2 sets (8-10)
Dumbbell or Barbell Shrugs 2 sets (10 reps)
How many grams of Creatine each day should I be consuming when I'm on your diet? I'm a natural bodybuilder and as I mentioned before my muscles feels flat all the time. 5grams 2x per day.
What is your prefered meal that you have your clients eating the night before show day? Protein/fat/carbs.......no sodium
I have heard allot of bodybuilder like to drink some wine the night before, this acts as a directic, would you recommend this? Let the diuretics act as diuretics and let your food fill up the muslces. Get rid of all the HOCUS POCUS VOODOO BODYBUILDING tricks!
And what is the prefered meal on the morning of the show? 4 WHOLE EGGS
Would you stay clear of eggs and fish since the sodium content is a wee bit higher? NOPE. The morning of the show, you want to put back a little sodium to prevent cramping. Remember, in the morning, you're no longer drinking which makes it imposible to smooth out.
I know you use white rice as your carb source, what protein and fat sources would you use and at what quantities roughly. chicken, fish, meal, peanutbutter, almonds, whole eggs......the same foods that the person dieted on.
How much water would you consume the last week, running up to show day?as much as you want until 8pm the night before the show (then stop)
Would this reduce on a daily basis? NO
What if anything do you have your clients eating or drinking prior to going on stage, alcohol, sweets, good carbs? NO TRICKS. Eat the same foods you used the entire diet.
Do you use any supplementation prior to going on stage, i.e Niacin etc? NO, It can make you light headed and cause you to pass out.
What day would you normally start carbing up your clients if the show day is on Saturday afternoon? THURSDAY
Would you stick with your 6 x meal per day regime? YES
Would you include protein source with every meal?
If so what protein do you prefer? YES, the same as during the diet. No protein shakes the FRIDAY before.
Would you include fat source with every meal?
If so what fat source do you prefer? YES
one of my training partners and i were debating on wether it is possible to prepare for a show on test alone. can you clear this up? i do not use (not that there is anything wrong with it) and he does. he pretty much stays on 500-750 mgs omnadren year round and doesnt eat all that clean. i would say moderately clean. he says that if he drops the jusnk food and cleans up all the sodium he could get dry and shredded for the stage
I always said that it's indeed possible to compete on JUST testosterone!
Finishing a T-Cypionate, Sust, Primo cycle...for mass...
Q- Whats your opinion on the follow up to this cycle ?
Thanks for the help.
T. Enanthate (250mg EOD) with EQ (200mg EOD)
Is phentermine o.k. to take ?Will it raise cortisol levels?
37.5 mg 1 x day
Thanks for your reply.
Its a stimulant and it's not healthy. I don't recommend it. You won't be hungry if you follow my diet plan.
1.) What do you think of Dorain Yates' bood and guts style of training, doing only 1 set to failure on each exercise ? You think it could work for a natural bodybuilder like myself? I like the style only I usually add in a few more exercises. But I stick to the 1 or 2 set per exercise strategy. Works well for people who have trained for a few years. If you're a beginner it's hard to "FEEL" the muscle enough to stimulate it enough in one set.
2.) What's the secret to maximizing vascularity during competition ? It has a genetic component but as bodyfat levels decrease, vascularity increases as well.
3.) Do you believe it's possible to hit the muscles at different angles through grip variations like doing close grip barbell curls for the outer biceps and wide grip barbell curls for the inner head? YES
Using 50mg of winstrol EOD and 75mg of Tren on the days I don't use the winny, I seem to not be able to acquire arimidex or proviron. I know you aren't a big proviron fan(I think) but would you think something OTC like 6OXO or Gaspari's Novadex XT at double strength would suffice?
I have reason to believe you think highly of those particular products. Does SPECIES have a similar product in that fashion and if not...do you plan on designing one?
SPECIES doesn't have one yet (because I want to make something better than whats out there). Gaspari's NOVEDEX XT seems to be one of the best antiaromatases out there. Give it a shot!
So masteron wouldnt be any good to take with Tren?This is what i meant about the profile i read, it said its good to stack Masteron with Tren.....what do you think?
What fast acting agents would you stack for an off season 8 week cycle?
Its okay to stack. Masteron is more of a pre-contest drug. Offseason you usually want to stick with longer acting drug since MASS is usually a priority. The longer the drug is in your system, the better and more consistent the gains.
1.) Do you think canned tuna is a good source of high quality protein? I survived on it in jail. When I first started bbing, I ate 4 cans a day. It "works"!
2.) Do you think Tofu is a good source of protein? Could it be included in your diet? Marginal. It can be included but I wouldn't depend on it exclusively.
3.) How about Cottage Cheese? Good source of protein. Watch your dairy intake though. Too much is no good. I find it very mucous forming.
4..) Is it true that artificial sweeteners like equal and splenda although non caloric could raise insulin level?
I don't find that. My gf is diabetic and she doesn't have issues with that either.
5.) What techniques to you employ to blast weak bodyparts into growth? Don't BLAST them........... "STIMULATE; DON'T ANNIHILATE!"
6.) How many reps is ideal when working forearms? 12-15
7.) Do you think it's a good idea to add weights on abdominal exercises? no
After taking a diuretic (ie Maxzide) for a show, does one have to wean off of it to prevent bloating? If so, how would they go about it? Thank you sir.
I recommend that people stay on about 1/2 dyazide (maxzide) per day for the 5 days following the show...........that usually works. Sometimes an additional 1/2 pill is needed for a few more days.
Dave how should I dose 2ius of hgh being that I work 12 hour swing shifts. Before sleep, or wake up, training days ???. When you wake up!
Also do you find it important to add T3 even on a dose of only 2ius unnecessary unless you're dieting for a show!
Ok I finally got up to where I finally started reading... I have been waiting to ask a question until I got through everything you have already answered... I have seen where you say to do GH first thing in the am due to being most catabolic... And I know many will think I am getting this mixed up with IGF1... But what about hitting it immediately PW? I have heard it said that will suppress your natural production but everyone acts like your GH secretion is immediately after your workout and I would think it would be most apt to be produced during? And with one of GH prime benefeits being to evevate IGF1 wouldn't this be of benefeit right after a workout??? Sorry for such a long question, but I want to make it evident that I do understand why its stated not to do GH PW as well as that I know IGF1 is commonly pushed PW and Im not confusing them.... If you did get into detail in past response I apologize, but you have a lot of responses in here, I tried hitting them all up.. And also yes Im horrid at spelling...
It's not a bad idea except for the fact that GH also acts antogonistically to INSULIN........meaning, it can make you INSULIN RESISTANT which would mean you won't absorb your food with maximal efficiency. Stick to IGF-1 or Insulin post workout!
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I did a shot of Cyp/Ent ( 500mg) combo on Monday in my right glute.
Even today , Its still very painful and swollen ...I don't have a fever and the area is not red at all...I don't know if its due to the potency 500mgs I believe is a lot per 1 cc...
Should I be heading to a hospital..
That's too many MILLIGRAMS (mg) in one area. It's very irritating to the tissue. If the pain and swelling progressively gets worse over the next 48 hours, go to the doctor and get on some antibiotics.
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what would be the best to jump start a cycle of sust at 600 a week d-bol,t-bol,anadrol? thanks dave
Sustanon can JUMP START itself. It contains fast acting Test propionate esters!
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Ultimate Mass
Written by Dave Palumbo
Monday, 25 September 2006
Whether it occurs while appearing at various bodybuilding contests around the country, or by daily email, or by personal cell phone inquisition, I am constantly accosted by the same question: How do I get HUGE? I have finally decided to put together the most definitive mass-gaining program available anywhere in the world. I can guarantee that if you follow the simple tenets that I will lay out before you in the next several paragraphs, you will find that your muscle-growing abilities will prosper.
FOOD INTAKE:
When attempting to gain mass, the most common pitfall confronted by most bodybuilders is that they simply do not consume enough protein. If you ask them if they eat enough, they all invariable reply,
"You wouldn't believe how much I eat!"
My response to that statement is,
"You've never seen me eat, have you?"
At that point, the inquisitor invariably starts getting nervous (as if they have finally come to grips with the fact that they're outgunned). My next inquiring question is,
"How much protein do you eat per day?"
to which most people answer,
"I'm not sure, but it's a lot!"
They aren't sure how much protein they eat, but they're sure that they eat a lot-now there's a real logician! Once I've reached this point in the "interview" process (as I like to call it), I realize what I am dealing with and I stop asking stupid questions that I definitely know the answers to. Instead, I help these individuals to construct a mass-gaining diet that will fit their particular needs (Remember: The main goal is to gain lean muscle mass while minimizing fat gains).
Another very important tenet of gaining mass is that, while frequent protein consumption is important, over-consumption of protein can also be detrimental to muscle gains. Because your body can only process so much protein at one sitting (this amount varies from individual to individual), consuming too much protein taxes the liver and kidneys (since these organs need to metabolize, detoxify, and excrete the extra protein) and this invariably stunts the body's ability to synthesize new muscle. Remember, we don't want to draw valuable energy needed for protein synthesis to help and aid the digestion and detoxification of excess protein.
Back in the early 90's, bodybuilders (myself included) were consuming 500-600g of protein per day in an effort to increase muscle gains. What we discovered in the last 5-10 years is that we were wasting most of this protein and causing our bodies to have to work extra hard to break it all down. Meanwhile, bodybuilders were greatly deprived of essential fats such as linoleic acid (omega-6 fats) and alpha linolenic acid (omega-3 fats), cholesterol-fats (from egg yolks and red meat) for steroidal hormone synthesis, and monounsaturated fats (such as olive oil and macadamia nut oil) for muscle cell membrane repair. What we were essentially doing back then was consuming huge amounts of protein and getting our fatty acid requirements indirectly by way of all the protein we ate (all animal protein sources also contain fat). The problem was that we were only getting animal fat protein. This still left us in a fat-deprived state. If you fail to consume essential fats in your diet (just as if you fail to eat enough protein), the end result will be stifled muscle gains (if on a bulking cycle) or reduced fat losses (if on a diet).
TAKE HOME MESSAGE: The body does not like to be deprived of protein or fat-- both are essential nutrients for optimum lean muscle gains. On the other hand, carbohydrates (of which I have not even mentioned once) are completely unessential nutrients. If, as bodybuilders or regular sedentary individuals, we were never to consume another gram of carbohydrates, our bodies would continue to grow muscle and metabolize fat without a single hesitation (and most of us would find that we got much leaner, as well). If some of you think I have a secret weapon in my arsenal of muscle-building, fat-burning, techniques, you're correct. It's called KNOWLEDGE!
To reiterate, carbohydrates are not considered essential nutrients in the muscle-building process; however, they are a very necessary source of energy when in a mass-gaining stage since we do not want to use all the essential muscle-building fat to fuel our workouts. When in a gaining stage, then, carbohydrates are a great energy source to preserve the dietary protein and fat for muscle-building purposes. While in a dieting stage; however, fat becomes a much more desirable energy source since it suppresses insulin release (carbs stimulate insulin release), it helps the body to maintain energy levels while on a reduced calorie diet (carbohydrates being the reduced calories), it provides essential fatty acids to the body which prevents protective "preservation" modes from occurring (whereby fat mobilization is halted), and it helps to stabilize blood sugar levels (reducing food cravings and increasing satiety).
EXAMPLE OF A TYPICAL MASS GAINING DIET:
MEAL 1:
6 whole omega-3 eggs with 1 cup of oatmeal
MEAL 2:
Meal Replacement SHAKE with a liquid carbohydrate drink (such as GATORAIDE or ULTRAFUEL)
MEAL 3:
½ pound (8oz) of chicken (or turkey or filet of sole or shrimp) with ½ cup nuts (almonds, cashews, or walnuts) with 1 cup RICE
MEAL 4:
Same as MEAL 2
MEAL 5:
½ pound (8oz) of red meat (or salmon or swordfish) with a salad with 2 tablespoon of olive or macadamia nut oil and vinegar with 1 baked potato and/or yam
MEAL 6: Same as MEAL 3
MEAL 7: Same as MEAL 2
MEAL 8: 6 whole omega-3 eggs with1 cup grits
SUGGESTED MASS-GAINING SUPPLEMENTS:
1. Multivitamin 2 x per day (take all vitamins with food): Men should take a multivitamin "without iron" added (women require iron since they lose blood, and thus, iron when they menstruate monthly)
2. Vitamin C 1000mg 2 x per day (anti-oxidant): Antioxidants prevent damage from free radicals (which can further damage muscle cells even after the workout is completed). By reducing cellular damage to muscle tissue, it enables the damaged muscle (from training) to repair itself at a greatly accelerated rate
3. Vitamin E (with Selenium) 400IU 2x per day (anti-oxidant): Two other vital Antioxidants.
4. Omega-3 Fish Oil Pills 1000mg2-3x per day (essential omega-3 fats)
5. Evening Primrose Oil 1300mg 2 x per day (essential omega-6 fats): As mentioned before, essential fatty acids are required to help rebuild broken down tissues in the body. If not consumed, daily, they will, essentially, stunt future muscle growth.
6. MSM Powder (for joints and tissue repair) 2000mg 2 x per day: All bodybuilders, at one time or another, have had joint pain and/or injuries. MSM is an extremely bio-available source of sulfur that is vital in the repair of connective tissue (joint surfaces, ligaments, tendons, and cartilage). Sulfur is also a necessary component in the repair and synthesis of muscle tissue and since we don't eat many foods that are high in sulfur, MSM becomes a very desirable supplement to the mass-gaining or contest-dieting bodybuilder.
7. Glucosamine sulfate 1000mg 2x per day: Glucosamine sulfate is another component of connective tissue that is very rarely consumed in the diet (since not many people eat ligaments and tendons along with there chicken breasts and filet mignons). Ingesting adequate amounts of glucosamine, has, experimentally, been illustrated to aid in the repair of torn meniscal cartilages, degenerative joint surfaces, and weak ligaments and tendons.
8. Creatine 5 grams 2 x per day (5g in the morning/ 5g after you train): Creatine is one of the most incredible natural supplements to hit the market. Its strong presence, even after almost 10 years on the market, is a testament to its truly unique abilities. It does two distinct, yet invaluable, jobs in the body.
First, it causes a volumizing (swelling) effect on the muscle cells such that the muscles find themselves in an extremely anabolic environment 24 hours a day. NOTE: Muscle cells love to be well hydrated. In fact, dehydrated muscle cells are very catabolic-that is, they are much more likely to break down.
Second, Creatine buffers ATP levels in muscle tissue (ATP is the only energy source that powers the muscle cells). The reason your muscles never run out of energy is because Creatine (as Creatine-phosphate inside the muscle cell) ensures that ATP levels are constantly regenerated. The more Creatine found inside the muscle cell, the greater the potential source of ATP. This is a great advantage to over-trained, contest, bodybuilders and endurance athletes who require tremendous stores of ATP to fuel these long, strenuous workouts.
ULTIMATE MASS-GAINING DRUG CYCLE:
week igf-1[mcg/day]Test. Cypionate (mg/w)Equipoise (mg/week) Sustanon 250 (mg/w]Trenbolone acetate (mg/w) G H (IU/day) Arimidex (mg/EOD)
1 11 800 300 2 1
2 11 800 300 2 1
3 11 1000 350 2 1
4 11 1000 350 3 1
5 1200 400 3 1
6 1200 400 3 1
7 11 1000 350 3 1
8 11 1000 300 4 1
9 11 750 150 4 1
10 11 750 150 4 1
11 1000 200 4 1
12 1000 200 4 1
13 11 1200 225 3 1
14 11 1200 225 3 1
15 11 1000 250 2 1
16 11 1000 250 2 1
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What do you think about functional and core training vs. traditional resistance training in re-guards to getting the average person in shape and also physique athletes? Its hard to be specific but I pretty sure you know what I'm talking about. Ive be doing PT for about 15 years and the basics still seem to work, but Ive always been open to learning something new if it gets my clients closer to their goals. Stick the basics and have your clients eat a good, healthy, diet (high protein/moderate essential fats/low to moderate carbs) and they'll see great results. THink about it, people got in shape way before all these NEW techniques came out.
I'm thinking about doing your S.M.A.R.T. Certification. You'll love it! There's a ton of interesting, useful, information.
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What is your stretching protocol?
Before/After a bodypart? Light warmup! They stretch AFTER you train.
After each set? Not excessive.
What is an example for stretching legs? Hard to describe in words!
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any NATURALS here get hella ripped from doing walking as cardio?its hard for me to give up jogging for walking i keep thinking walking wouldnt get me that ripped compared to jogging Jogging will definitely cause muscle loss! You can bet on that.
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Hey Dave, i was wondering what could i use in my postcycle, if i used Oxa 30mg (each day), Primo 200mg weekly, Stano 150mg weekly for 10 weeks I'd just do an aromatase inhibitor for the OFF PERIOD since you really didn't suppress yourself that much from your cycle.
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In regards to training:
Do you warm up for every single exercise you do in your routine? If so, how many warm up sets? No, just the first exercise for the particular bodypart I'm training. For instance, I will do three sets of my first chest exercise (incline presses), then I'll do 1-2 sets for each additional exercise I do.
Do you think 3 working sets is pushing it even if your not plateauing on the weights? NO
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What do you think would be a better med if you got prescribed one of these hyzar or lisinopril.. I know Hyazar has a thyazide in it.. Thank you for taking your time LISINOPRIL is much better and safer since it's only an ACE INHIBITOR!
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Dave, how many carbs ARE NECESSARY to spare protein in ANY diet. not your keto... That's an impossible generalized question to answer. I need to know how fast the person's metabolism is and I need to know what their activity level is.
i know youve said low carb diets are more likey to have gluconeogenisis occur.
im currently eating 250-275 grams of protien.... 100-120grams of fat... and 120-150 grams of carbs per day... and on workout days 150-175 g carbs.,.. including waxymaize. i weight 205 pounds give or take. with probably 13 % Bf... one cheat meal per week on sunday night. and i always get my protein in!... also if gluconeogenisis would occur on a diet like this would the use of AAS or Clen(as an anti catabolic protien sparing drug.) help maintain leean body mass? You're eating a lot of calories. YOu shouldn't have to worry much about losing muscle or relying on gluconeogenesis for energy unless your activity level is through the roof.
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My girlfriend had her thyroid taken out a few years ago because of cancer and her doctor prescribes her t-4 to take on a daily basis. Her doctor just upped her dosage for a higher amount to be taken daily so she does not need the ones she was taking previously and asked if I wanted them ( they are 112 mcg of t-4 per tab). T-4 converts into T-3 so what type of dosage would I need to have say 25mcg of t-3 converted into my system ? Is it a 3 to 1 ratio , so 75 mcg of t-4 would equal 25mcg of t-3 ? They are useless to you since your body will only convert what it needs into the active T3. Since you're not LOW in thyroid hormone, you probably won't convert any of it. When you take Cytomel (T3), that acts to boost metabolism since you're taking ACTIVE THYROID HORMONE.
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do u believe there is a contrindication with an alpha 2 antagonist (yohimbine - vasodilator) AND beta 2 agonist (Clen- vasoconstricter) do you think they would be counter productive when used together? is it like using a blood thiner (coumadin) and vitamin K (for clotting) . Although they both work on different receptors (Clen on b-2 and yohimbe on a-2), there still might be some interaction since both boost output of norepinephrine. The typical side effect would be overstimulation of your nervous system (nervousness, anxiety).
when using clen and it works on adipose tissue, not estrogen dependant fat, and then towards the end of the clen cycle can you add in yohimbine to work on the alpha receptors that are found in the estrogen dependant fat area (which are found in alpha receptors).. ie inner thighs lower abdomen and back of arms? I think if you didn't go crazy on the dosage, you could use both at the same time. However, if you have access to clenbuterol, stick to using that. It's much more powerful as a fat burner!
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Current research shows that cycling the amount of protein per pound of bodyweight may be anabolic.
Example:
Let's say the intake is .8g per pound for a 5-7 days, then for 7-14 days you up the intake to 1.75-2g per pound and the cycle continues.
I was always taught the body likes a steady amount of aminos. Though theoretically if you starved yourself for a period of time your body would use the access aminos once provided, thus promoting a growth?
Would the body readily be able to digest and assimilate the change in protein intake? Your body can handle it; however, I always found that I grew bets when overloading my body with protein consistently.
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I am 3 weeks out from my show and just starting to get real sick. Do I stay in ketosis, maybe up my calories? Or should I have some carbs? When you're sick, try your best to stick to the diet; however, if you can't stomach the food, eat what you can tolerate!
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Is it better absorption if you take your cal/mag supplement with your last meal before bed? I take with my morning meal and with my last meal at night.
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Dave what did u think of Udos defense of Flax oil??? will this change your mind? and will this possibly change your diet because you use nuts and nut butters or nut oils as fat in alot of the meals? (to help with the ratio of omega 6-3) Udo is a genius; however, his oil tastes like shit!......lol. I prefer to use FISH OIL and EVENING PRIMROSE OIL PILLS to supplement the essential fat intake we get from the food we eat (Salmon, nuts, whole eggs, peanutbutter). Udo has a product that he's spend many years developing and he'd like you to believe that you can only really get good, safe, reliable essential fatty acids from him. I understand why he's saying that. Take in the knowledge he provided but separate that from his sales pitch.
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Hi Dave. When your new product TESTOSTOLYZE comes out, will that be sufficient on its own as an aromatase inhibitor when on a 3-4 month cycle? Definitely
I understand that its the estrogens that sensitize the prostate when taking large amounts of test and that bringing the ratio back in favour ot test will help to stop this from happening. Is this one of the main functions of your product? Yes, it functions very well in that capacity
Sorry if you have explained this before, but a quick summary would be great.......dosages effects of the product etc, thanks The dosage of Testostolyze will be 100mg 1-3x per day. At 3 pills per day (30 day supply per bottle), you will get maximum estrogen and DHT inhibition.
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I don't know if this has happened to anyone else, but ever since I started taking fish oils, I have been getting loose stools. Are you taking fiber? Sounds like you could be malabsorbing the stuff.
Do you guys have any suggestions (fiber supplements, what kind?..etc) Try my FIBERLYZE. I believe it to be one of the best, most complete, awesome tasting fiber products you can buy.
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I'm currently following your keto diet protocol for a 200lb male @ around 11%BF. On carb load days, how many grams of carbs should I consume that can get me through the week??? It's not CARB LOAD DAYS......it's CHEAT MEAL! Usually 300g carbs is plenty.
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I was hoping I could get a confirmation regarding cardio. For speed, I've seen to keep it around 3.0, and that you shouldn't go higher than 3.5. Just walk at a steady pace, but nothing too fast. Separately, for heart rate, I've seen to target 115-125, which it should be as long as you're walking at the aforementioned speed. But when I've been walking, if I go at 3.5 my heart rate is typically around the upper 90s, maybe lower 100s. In order to reach that target zone, I have to up the speed to about 4.0 or a bit higher. I end up speed walking, which I'm not sure was recommended, and even before I reach 30 minutes my shins are burned out. Despite keeping my heart rate in that zone, I haven't been losing any weight, so I think I need to increase the duration, but I'm not sure my shins will allow it. /frustrated-at-lack-of-no-fat-loss rant Just keep the pace at 3.0-3.3 mph. Don't worry about heart rate. Your heart may just be in great shape and thus it doesn't need to beat that frequently.
To make a long story short (sorry), if I walk at a pace of 3.5, even though my heart rate would only be about 95-105, will that still lead to fat loss? YES
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I've gotten into a debate with Evan Centopani and a few members over at the animalpak.com forums on Universal Real Gains, a product solely consisting of Maltodextrin as carbs.
My point of view was basically this: Anyone on Dave's Cyclic Bulk or Nutrition Plan could NOT properly put Real Gains to use, seeing as that it contains not-so-great sources of protein and 87g of maltodextrin. With 87g carbs coming from Maltodextrin, and plain whey isolate, it's unlikely that you will even absorb all those calories. I would bet a nice chunk of change that you'll wind up pooping your brains out from that stuff. It reminds me of the PERFECT 1100 calories shakes we used to drink back in the early 90's. Tons of malto and tons of whey concentrate and plenty of calories but you always wound up sitting on the toilet forever with those things!
This is what Evan Centopani said...
"Actually, that's only part true. While Real Gains could not be used successfully as part of a Keto diet, it doesn't mean it cannot be used in the offseason. It's a given that anything with carbs (with the exception of peanut butter, nuts, and some green veggies) cannot be consumed while doing the Keto diet/the Palumbo diet. However, offseason is a whole different ballgame. For me, depending on what point I get to in the offseason, I will intentionally incorporate carboihydrates that are more glycemic. In the first few months after a show (after dieting for 4 months and not even seen a carbohydrate) I can grow by eating very clean and having limited amounts of low GI carbs. However, three or four months into an offseason, anyone's progress is bound to slow. At this point all you can do is eat more. Or is it?
You can increase the quantity of the food you eat but if you're anything like me, you can only fit so much. Going from 6 to 7 meals a day is a significant jump for me...simply put, I just don't have that big of an appetite. In this case, it makes sense to not only take in more calories but to select carbs which are somewhat glycemic. Why? Because:
1. You will make your body release insulin. In case you have been living under a rock, insulin is THE most anabolic hormone in the body!
2. By releasing insulin you will shuttle the proteins and carbs you just consumed and you will not feel stuffed. This is key when trying to consume more calories...you can only eat what you can fit. Trust me, force-feeding yourself until you throw up is not a good look.
3. Studies have shown that liquid protein/carb combos illicit a greater anabolic effect than whole food meals with the same macronutrient profile.
Real gains is not for everyone. It's not for you if you're trying to run a keto diet. It's not for you if you're trying to maintain shredded glutes and are just looking for an in between meal supplement. Simply put, it's a GAINER. That's why it's called REAL GAINS. But on the same note, used properly it will not turn you into a fatass. It's a quality blend of carbs, proteins, and fats that will help you put on size and do it in a way that will allow you to control it."
So my question is... Right now I am maitaining weight during baseball season and lifting while trying to lean out some. In the future, after I go on keto for quite some time to lean up... If I do in fact go back on a bulk with Dave's nutrition plan, does he condone what Evan follows? What does Dave's bulk meal plan typically look like? I do not like sugar calories when trying to bulk up (except immediately after training.....and even then I prefer the waxy maize-- it runs through you in a much cleaner fashion). When hitting sticking points in your BULKING UP, don't increase carbs. That's like trying to increase the speed of your car by putting extra gasoline in the car (even though the tank is full). It's not gonna do anything except "SPILL OVER" (in the human body, it will make you fat). Instead, increase FAT calories coming from monounsaturated fats such as EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE or MACADAMIA NUT OIL (pour it in your shake or add it to your foods). You'll be boosting essential muscle building nutrients and your calorie count will rise 2x as fast as if you added carbs alone.
Technically speaking, Evan is correct. But no matter what, I still don't see how Real Gains could make you anything but a complete fatass
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Hey, i am 100% new to supplements all together, and i dont plan on ever taking them for fat burning, bulking, or muscle building. However, after a recent tendon/ligament injury, I have heard about Arthrolyze, and am curious about it. I dont need/want anything thats going to do anything other than aid in recovery. I am perfectly content with my fit figure, and happy with my health. I do lots of cardio (running, mountain biking), and other hobbies that build "usable muscle"(bouldering, rock climbing etc). I am 22 years old and am sitting at ~5'9" and weigh 153.ARTHROLYZE is merely RAW MATERIALS to repair joints, connective tissue, cartilage, ligaments and tendons! It has no other function. The advantage of ARTHROLYZE is that it contains POTENT AMOUNTS of the joint repair ingredients (not just a "sprinkle here, and a sprinkle there").
I have a slightly torn tendon in my ankle, and i have been making minimal recovery for the past 6 weeks, and it's killing me. I am an extremely active person (Rock climbing, backpacking/hiking, mountain biking, wakeboarding, snowboarding, running, etc) So being in a wrap and removable walking cast has been difficult for me to endure the good weather we have been having lately.
I had a local builder, and trainer tell me about Artholyze, and gave me a brief run-down of its purpose and affects, and it sounds like the miracle pill for me. But being someone who is generally scared of supplements, obviously i have my doubts and questions.
I am nervous that the Arthrolyze will heal the injury so quickly that it wont repair itself properly, making me prone for another injury soon after returning to my usual active schedule. Is that true? Think about how silly that sounds. Arthrolyze will the injury too fast???......lol. First off, ARTHROLYZE won't heal the injury. Your body will use the compounds provided in the ARTHROLYZE formula and then will repair the body. Remember, it's very hard to repair torn up connective tissue without the proper raw materials. Think about it, when was the last time you ate cartilage, ligaments, and tendons? Never! That's why you need to take a supplement that provides these essential building blocks in the correct, potent, amounts.
Is arthrolyze something that i should consider? I'd have to say YES
What dosage for me? Take 5 pills 2x per day with meals (the bottle will last you 30 days)
Are there ANY known side effects AT ALL? (hormones, attitudes, ANYTHING) NO! Pain relief is the only reported side effect....lol
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Hello Dave,My head is spinning from the Udo Interview.Whats your take on all this,have any of your ideas changed from listening to that? Do you still think mac oil is good for cooking? Yes, I think he's wrong about not being able to cook with macadamia nut oil (a stable monounsatured fat). I'm planning on having Dr Fred Pescatore on NO BULL RADIO. He's the author of the Hampton's Diet that advocates the use of Macadamia Nut oil. Wait till you here what he has to say.
How about fish oil do you think its makes sense? Fish oil is better than FLAX for the simple reason that it has everything in it that FLAX does PLUS it has the omega-3 intermediates, EPA and DHA. When I asked UDO the question about DHA/EPA, he only addressed those two fats (as if Fish Oil didn't contain plan alpha linolenic acid). I can understand his position, though. He sells FLAX SEED OIL!...lol
What about that cooking thing? I do the raw meat diet sometimes,and it gets old like anything else. Maybe Ill go to the forest and bite the leg off a deer for good health...lol Thank You I think that as long as you don't CHAR your meats, you're fine!
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dave i though you said that if i were taking test. then dont take eq because it is test. im confused. okay if i was to take the above cycles you recommend, first I never said that. Test and EQ is one of my favorite combinations (as anyone on here will attest to).
1-do i take the( tren )just on monday, wendsday, friday? That's fine. Some guys like to take it every other day, and that's fine too.
2- and for eq; is that 300 per week all i take in just a week and why? 100mg EQ every other day is fine. For advanced lifters, they can take 200mg EOD if they feel they need to. I used to get great results from 100mg EOD.,
3- why 6 week cycles? It should prevent your body from stagnating on the same drugs. Change of pace!
4-since deca and eq takes 3-4wks to start giving results. would'nt the short cycles defeat the purpose? Nah, once the stuff is in your system, you don't have to keep waiting for it to accumulate over and over again! Remember, the Deca may take 3 weeks to get into your system, but it will last 3 weeks after you stop taking it as well.
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I weigh 176 pounds under 15 % bodyfat. My current breakdown of protein carbs and fats is as follows.......
Protein : 1 to 1.5 per pound of bodyweight
Carbs : 2 to 3 gms per pound of bodyweight
Fats : 0.5 gms per pound of bodyweight.
My goal is to currently drop down the bodyfat while steadily gaining lean muscle mass.
My question is .........As per Dave's recommendations.....
1 What would be the macronutrient ( protein/carb/fat) breakdown for an individual (under 15%bf )who is trying to lean down while gaining muscle? Cut back to 1g carbs/lb
2 What would be the macronutrient breakdown for an individual who is extremely lean individual ( under 10% bf) who is trying to primarily gain muscle while maintaining his fat % 1g pro/lb, .5gfat/lb, 1gcarb/lb
3 Last but not least what would be the macronutrient breakdown for an individual who is over 25% bf who wants to primarily cut down. 1g pro/lb, .5g fat/lb, less than 50g carbs.
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What do you think about Colon cleansing/detox? Do think its something that WE as big eaters should, or could do? Is there a good deal of benefits from doing so? If so, do you recommend anything, or what to avoid? COLON CLEANSING and DETOXES dehydrate you and run your body down. Stick to a good soluble/insoluble fiber supplement 2x per day EVERY SINGLE DAY and you'll never need to do a detox! (my FIBERLYZE product will work great for that purpose)
Here's an example, http://www.drnatura.com/colonix_program.php
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Hi Dave, I wanted to follow up on a question I asked a while back. I have test 250 2 10 ml, deca, liquid (russian) dbol 10 ml each and 5 single use primobolin. You advised 10 weeks test and deca, 5 weeks, test and primo. I hope I have that right. Im 19 1/2 weeks out, so by my estimate, I should start that in 3 weeks. Am I on target? Also I started dieting Feb 1, breaking into it so Im now at 6 meals - including protein shakes, now averaging 250 gram protein, med low carbs, low med to med fats. Im presently 252 lbs (at 6'2") , I actually GAINEd 3 lbs the last week, despite the diet and 3 45 minute cardio sessions in addition to my 3 heavy intense workouts. I looked bigger and more vascular, so Im attributing the gain to muscle and water. Id like any helpful feedback you can provide. Sounds like you have a handle on it!
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In the period of losing fat for a body builder who doesn`t use steroids do you adivise the of creatine? That helps! 5g immediately after training!
If your answer is positive , can I combine it with beta-alanine? That's fine as long as there's no carbohydrates in the beta-alanine mix.
I`d like to have your opinion about the use of L-arginine to stimulate the production of NO.From my modest point of view, the dosing of an amino- acid(only one) in possible high doses could create a dis-balance with other amino acids. I tend to agree with you; however, I don't think you have to worry about that. I'm still waiting for the research to show something positive about having increased NO production in the body. I feel that indiscriminately increasing NO in the body might eventually prove to be a problem with brain cell communication due to decreased responsiveness to NO (which is how brain cells communicate) . When brain cells can't efficiently "talk" to each other, this could lead to clinical depression.
Perhaps for before training it can be possible because of the vasodilatation.This one also produces many free radicals, in that sense couldn`t it be only the use of l-arginine but also accompany it with an anti-oxidant, for ex. vitamin C.
In off-season time what`s your opinion about the consumption of milk, I ask you cause according to experts in nutrition suggest that milk has the most absorbable way of calcium. As Arnold was so fond of saying, "Milk is for babies". Adult humans can't digest the lactose in milk and that makes it, in my mind, a poor source of nutrition.
Experts also state one must eat the most natural possible way, thus avoiding man-made products, if this is correct, should I consume more fruit than oat, quinoa. No, it means you should start eating raw foods-- sushi, lightly cooked meats, ect...........however, you might be poisoned by all the bacteria in our foods. Damned if you do, damned if you dont!
A friend who`s a trainer told he`d read in a magazine the following:"some people form crystallized uric acid-based substances and/or calcification in the joint".So "your protein should come only from egg whites, wild salmon, skinless turkey and/or chicken breasts - no red meat at all and no protein shakes".
"Your carbohydrates should come from green vegetables and low-glycemic fruits - that`s all.No bread, rice, pasta, oatmeal, nothing that has been made by a human being".Finally,to eliminate liquids he suggested me to drink pineapple`s skin water.Thanks. If you get stranded on a dessert island, you'll live till 120........swimming with the ducks!....lol
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whats your thoughts on Pregnenolone ?? does it really increase concentration etc...any side effects from it??? According to some studies it's a great anti-aging hormone to supplement with in small amounts. PREGNENOLONE is the precursor to all steroidal hormones in the body. It's the MASTER STEROIDAL compound. Whether or not its something we need to consume still remains to be seen. I haven't seen too much research confirming that claim.
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I am interested in competing again but as a natural bodybuilder for the first time. I have been clean for a year now. Does anyone know of any organization that I can compete in other than NPC natural shows? Is this my only option? Seems that way.
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can you please tell me what type of program you would recommmend a 16 year old kid to start to get ready for next football season? He is 6'0 and weighs 195. He has great potential, but the coach has them doing full body workouts and no supp's. Thank you for any info Have him eat high protein, good essential fats, and moderate to high carbs (depending on his metabolism). At that age, food is the most powerful drug he can ingest!
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Dave, if I eat a green salad with a tablespoon of oil once per day (while dieting and bulking) could I use udo's choice oil and then not have to take my omega 3 and evening primrose oil supplements Theoretically, yes. However, I wouldn't substitute FLAX SEED OIL for your OMEGA-3 FISH OIL! Just my opinion!
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one mouth ago did my last shot 10wk cycle sust tri tren ,i started o.t 50mg a day this week is that going to mess my pct ,so far iam getting harder diet good training real good
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dave, whats the maximum amount of chromium picolinate one shoud take per day.... i have 500 mcg pills. i spilt them in half and just have half a day. i wanna take it with each meal high in carbs. but i dont know the upper limit, nor do i want to take a high amount because i have read a study that shows it to cause cancerous cells. is there any truth to this? and if so whats the safest amount to consume CHROMIUM is a trace metal that needs to be taken in small amounts. 200-400mcg per day is sufficient to ensure that you've satisfied your daily requirements.
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Is there any added benefit to making the shakes with pasteurized egg whites instead of water?
Apart from the fact that 1 scoop of Isolate will be used instead of the usual 2 therefore saving some cash on the Isolyze. You can do that if you'd like. Some people's stomach's get a little upset from drinking raw egg whites. Give it a try if you'd like.
I like the texture and the fact that egg whites are whole food and not a supplement. That's fine. Except egg whites are not a whole food (they're missing the yolks).
I cup egg whites= 25g protein
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dave, why do you recommend coral calcium instead of regular calcium? It has more of an akalinizing (acid neutralizing) effect on the body than regular calcium.
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